Re: FLEECING OPERATION
I noticed a huge increase on Tughill this year. I can see them patrolling a lot early in the season to check registrations. You used to just slow down by them so they could see your stickers then they would wave you on. Now, It's stop, get out all your paper work and give them time look over your sled for violations.
Total B.S.
JERSEYJOE said:
I noticed a huge increase on Tughill this year. I can see them patrolling a lot early in the season to check registrations. You used to just slow down by them so they could see your stickers then they would wave you on. Now, It's stop, get out all your paper work and give them time look over your sled for violations.
Total B.S.
JERSEYJOE
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LAW ENFORCEMENT
Let it be known that I am all for promoting safe snowmobiling. My group and I are older and respect all law enforcement, but it has become a profit center up there in NY. Too many different law enforcement groups with individual competing agendas all with the almighty dollar being the goal. I have heard that the mere possession of a non-factory exhaust gets you a ticket regardless if the noise level. All tickets carry the same tariff: $130.l00 for each violation. The trail maps are deceptive. Not all roads are forbidden to ride, but tickets are issueed. If your camp happens to be on a " closed road to sleds" and you are 1/4 from the official trail guess what: you can't get there. You have to trailer to the spot. No leeway given to you at all. Law enforcement up there is unforgiving especially to out of staters. many of us who pay lots of tax and support local businesses. They are slitting their own throat because people are not going there to spend money. I for one refuse to go out for the day and have to stop 4 or 5 times and get my paperwork checked, then have to worry about some overeager revenue collector looking to bust my balls for going 45mph in the middle of nowhere.
More trips to Canada where we are welcome.
Let it be known that I am all for promoting safe snowmobiling. My group and I are older and respect all law enforcement, but it has become a profit center up there in NY. Too many different law enforcement groups with individual competing agendas all with the almighty dollar being the goal. I have heard that the mere possession of a non-factory exhaust gets you a ticket regardless if the noise level. All tickets carry the same tariff: $130.l00 for each violation. The trail maps are deceptive. Not all roads are forbidden to ride, but tickets are issueed. If your camp happens to be on a " closed road to sleds" and you are 1/4 from the official trail guess what: you can't get there. You have to trailer to the spot. No leeway given to you at all. Law enforcement up there is unforgiving especially to out of staters. many of us who pay lots of tax and support local businesses. They are slitting their own throat because people are not going there to spend money. I for one refuse to go out for the day and have to stop 4 or 5 times and get my paperwork checked, then have to worry about some overeager revenue collector looking to bust my balls for going 45mph in the middle of nowhere.
More trips to Canada where we are welcome.
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I'm glad loud exhusts are illegal and inforced hard. Not only my self but all the good landowners don't have to shut the trails on their land because it's quiet enough to enjoy their home life while sleds are going by. Watching TV or getting sleep is their one of their rights. Crossing their land isn't a right for us.
You can't get to the trail here in NH as well from 99% of NH. If we aren't careful we will loose all our trails. Like it was in Ma. for us. No more riding at all with anything any were.
If people are looking for more freedom keep heading North for sure. I was able to live another 100 years. I'd end up moving more North as well. I came up from Ma. because we lost the freedoms. It's creeping up slowly from Ma. still.
If you follow the laws you should be able to relax and enjoy the day. If people don't then they not only get a ticket but hurt the future of the sport for us.
You can't get to the trail here in NH as well from 99% of NH. If we aren't careful we will loose all our trails. Like it was in Ma. for us. No more riding at all with anything any were.
If people are looking for more freedom keep heading North for sure. I was able to live another 100 years. I'd end up moving more North as well. I came up from Ma. because we lost the freedoms. It's creeping up slowly from Ma. still.
If you follow the laws you should be able to relax and enjoy the day. If people don't then they not only get a ticket but hurt the future of the sport for us.
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Speed law on sleds
Okay back on topic of speeding laws, 'NO LAW IS A GOOD LAW"...ride it like you stole I say, BUT I feel if you were careless, causing an accident to others by your speeding then you should be suffer some kind of fine. There cant be freedom without responsibilty.
Okay back on topic of speeding laws, 'NO LAW IS A GOOD LAW"...ride it like you stole I say, BUT I feel if you were careless, causing an accident to others by your speeding then you should be suffer some kind of fine. There cant be freedom without responsibilty.
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UPDATE
Well after spending 2 great days on Tug Hill I need to revise my image of the Law enforcement there. Got stopped 2 times but it was a 2 mph roll by. They just looked at my sticker and waved me on. Polite not trouble or time lost. It was at an intersection. One of them had a radar gun on his side but we were doing like 48 and never had an issue.
GREAT WORK NY GUYS . GET THE AHOLES OFF THE TRAILS..
Well after spending 2 great days on Tug Hill I need to revise my image of the Law enforcement there. Got stopped 2 times but it was a 2 mph roll by. They just looked at my sticker and waved me on. Polite not trouble or time lost. It was at an intersection. One of them had a radar gun on his side but we were doing like 48 and never had an issue.
GREAT WORK NY GUYS . GET THE AHOLES OFF THE TRAILS..
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there is no harm in speeding on a sled, they handle so well and when i am going 130/160 down a straight i am way more on my toes than when im going 50kms. in the tight trails i see a point for speed limits but i still go at my own pace
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All freakin BULL CRAP! Just a revenue stream for them.
Re: UPDATE
That's how it should be. But, It was probably too cold for them to be out last weekend. I rode from Pulaski to Copenhagen, I think I passed more groomers than sleds on Friday night. It was like a ghost town up there. Watch this coming holiday weekend with warmer temps, I bet they'll be out to make up for last weekend. I hope I'm wrong....
JERSEYJOE said:
That's how it should be. But, It was probably too cold for them to be out last weekend. I rode from Pulaski to Copenhagen, I think I passed more groomers than sleds on Friday night. It was like a ghost town up there. Watch this coming holiday weekend with warmer temps, I bet they'll be out to make up for last weekend. I hope I'm wrong....
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Re: UPDATE
Thats good and all. But if we want snowmobile to live on we need the 20-30year old guys to buy new super FAST sleds and ride. Snowmobile is the one sport that you can go fast. If we strat to put laws on how fast you can go the 20-30 year olds well go and do something else and snowmobile will DIE! STOP WITH THE NEW LAWS. Go after the Aholes comeing out of bars.
JERSEYJOE said:
Thats good and all. But if we want snowmobile to live on we need the 20-30year old guys to buy new super FAST sleds and ride. Snowmobile is the one sport that you can go fast. If we strat to put laws on how fast you can go the 20-30 year olds well go and do something else and snowmobile will DIE! STOP WITH THE NEW LAWS. Go after the Aholes comeing out of bars.
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