Starting Diagnostic Specs Post your Specs Please

[cannondale27]

Trying to help someone out with starting issue so I took some numbers off mine in Diagnostic Mode sat all week outside in trailer. Figure it may give others something to compare to. Mine has always and still does start in one try no prime with all 3 flashes. This is with latest flash in it.

If others could copy/paste this and put there numbers in would be very helpful. Diagnostics is found by pressing both bottom buttons on dash same time then follow the scrolls/select.

OK Here is mine from sitting for all week in trailer just turn key on not started
39 coolant temp
41 Intake Air Temp
742 mmHG Baro
129 ISC
30ohms Fuel pump
11v

Then started it
ISC was at 120
Fuel pump 34 Ohms
14.2 Volts at 1470-1510rpm
Rest same

Once temp light out and then some
165 coolant temp
41 intake air temp
742 mmHg Bar
65-84 ISC
Fuel Pump 34 Ohms
14.4 V

 

[blueironranger]

I'm not sure on which flash but it fired up quickly after only a few rotations, sat for over a week.

Key on
32 coolant temp
31 Intake Air Temp
718 mmHG Baro (~1500 ft.)
130 ISC
36 ohms Fuel pump
12.5v

Then started it
37 coolant temp
32 Intake Air Temp
718 mmHG Baro
120 ISC
37 ohms Fuel pump
14.5v @ 1700-1750

Once temp light out and then some
165 coolant temp
44 intake air temp
718 mmHg Bar
88-95 ISC
Fuel Pump 38 Ohms
14.6 V @ 1490-1520

 

[DT]

Cold with just turned key on-
39 coolant temp
39 Intake Air Temp
727 mmHG Baro
129 ISC
54 ohms Fuel pump
12.2v

Cold started-
120 ISC
55 Ohms Fuel pump
14.6

Warmed up-
170 coolant temp
51 intake air temp
727 mmHg Bar
71.92 ISC
58 Ohms Fuel Pump
14.6

What kind of starting problem you working on?

 

[cannondale27]

Cold with just turned key on-
39 coolant temp
39 Intake Air Temp
727 mmHG Baro
129 ISC
54 ohms Fuel pump
12.2v

Cold started-
120 ISC
55 Ohms Fuel pump
14.6

Warmed up-
170 coolant temp
51 intake air temp
727 mmHg Bar
71.92 ISC
58 Ohms Fuel Pump
14.6

What kind of starting problem you working on?

Thank you! The guy has a hot start issue. Once warm it won't start unless throttle given.Also had the P1338 code. Same thing many 14 guys dealt with back in 13 except this one was flashed with newest code.

 

[cannondale27]

I believe his ISC is at 120 warmed up. That's out of whack.

 

[DT]

Is this something new his sled is experiencing or has it always had it?

 

[blueironranger]

You might be on to something with the ISC, too much air and not enough fuel possibly and "blipping" the throttle may command more fuel to get it to start. My Phazer has always needed a quick blip when heat soaked, like turning if off after a hard powder run for a quick chat, to get it to catch. I only tried a few hot starts with my Viper so far and it seem to catch quickly but it really wasn't heat soaked, aka "Worked hard" before turning it off then restarting.

 

[cannondale27]

Is this something new his sled is experiencing or has it always had it?

Always had it 2015 but not ridden much till this year.

 

[cannondale27]

You might be on to something with the ISC, too much air and not enough fuel possibly and "blipping" the throttle may command more fuel to get it to start. My Phazer has always needed a quick blip when heat soaked, like turning if off after a hard powder run for a quick chat, to get it to catch. I only tried a few hot starts with my Viper so far and it seem to catch quickly but it really wasn't heat soaked, aka "Worked hard" before turning it off then restarting.

This hot start issue pretty much went away in the Viper world with the Flash update in 15.

 

[yamadoo]

What is ISC?
Thanks

 

[cannondale27]

What is ISC?
Thanks

Idle Speed Control. It's a stepper motor on the Throttlebody.

 

[gpxsrx]

What is ISC?
Thanks

idle speed control

 

[DT]

This hot start issue pretty much went away in the Viper world with the Flash update in 15.

Hot start and low rpm burble is bad on my '15, cold is never a problem. I went with the EVO flash looking for improvements, but it didn't help at all. In communicating with EVO about it, they pointed towards fuel injectors with bad manufacturing tolerances. Just another possibility-

 

[yamadoo]

idle speed control

Thanks

 

[drumz11]

I can get you the codes on the newest flash soon on mine.........but what is he running? 2015?