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Studding - new AC "quiet track" on Sidewinder

if durability and dependability is your concern...

IMHO dont do plastic backers...yes..none of them...and especially the pro lite backers

Just my experience. I ride mostly Quebec trails which generally has decent snow even during a bad year. However, the loss of 2 or 3 backers over 2,000-2,500 hard driven miles at my weight is worth the rotational weight savings for me. We did hit a bad stone filled section which certainly had me nervous. It seems you will be missing the backer before tearing the track and no bent studs either. I'm two seasons in. So far so good. But I get your point if you ride in more rough terrain.
 

The biggest problem with plastic backers that s you Can't tighten them down so the stud sit flush into track. If you do try to they will strip out or mushroom out.
 
Just my experience. I ride mostly Quebec trails which generally has decent snow even during a bad year. However, the loss of 2 or 3 backers over 2,000-2,500 hard driven miles at my weight is worth the rotational weight savings for me. We did hit a bad stone filled section which certainly had me nervous. It seems you will be missing the backer before tearing the track and no bent studs either. I'm two seasons in. So far so good. But I get your point if you ride in more rough terrain.
 
Just my experience. I ride mostly Quebec trails which generally has decent snow even during a bad year. However, the loss of 2 or 3 backers over 2,000-2,500 hard driven miles at my weight is worth the rotational weight savings for me. We did hit a bad stone filled section which certainly had me nervous. It seems you will be missing the backer before tearing the track and no bent studs either. I'm two seasons in. So far so good. But I get your point if you ride in more rough terrain.

you might want to rethink your statement...the loss of even one could equal a stud thrown into your heat exchanger and destroy your motor....

the rotational savings means virtually nothing providing its a balanced pattern, newtons first law of motion...a body in motion.....especially on a 200+- h.p. sled.....
 
you might want to rethink your statement...the loss of even one could equal a stud thrown into your heat exchanger and destroy your motor....

the rotational savings means virtually nothing providing its a balanced pattern, newtons first law of motion...a body in motion.....especially on a 200+- h.p. sled.....

Excellent point. Maybe I have just been lucky, because I don't even have a scratch on the exchanger , or its that I am constantly checking my track for fear of just that. I am considering aluminum backers with the tall nuts as an alternative.
 
I've studded two of these tracks now. The quiet track bumps have no issue. I just make sure they back of the stud is up through the bump.

As far as 1.325 goes , it's all the stud I've ever used and will use with a 1.25 track. With my viper I had great luck with 3 per pitch. This length stud is great for trail and icey spots. Also the garage floor and box liner of the truck stand a much better chance with short trail studs vs longer ones.
 
I've studded two of these tracks now. The quiet track bumps have no issue. I just make sure they back of the stud is up through the bump.

As far as 1.325 goes , it's all the stud I've ever used and will use with a 1.25 track. With my viper I had great luck with 3 per pitch. This length stud is great for trail and icey spots. Also the garage floor and box liner of the truck stand a much better chance with short trail studs vs longer ones.
I agree 1.325 is fine for trail riding. I got to test them out yesterday. I tried to aim for any ice I could find on the trail to see how it worked. It held the line fine. No more of the unsafe sliding around the corners. 144 1.325's down the middle 3 per row and I'm happy. For the guys looking for max hook-up you surely will want more. Always have to weigh the risk vs reward and what you want to be able to do when talking stud length.
 
I finally got my tunnel protector from Yamaha. Time to instal my 1.5 warthogs 144 down the middle 48 double al backers 48 single. Anyone see a problem with the 4 /2 stud pattern ??
 

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