Whats the best super charger controller??

[MrSled]

Whats the best bang for your buck??

I am not happy with the MPI unit, I am looking at a RB3 or a Power Commander with add on needed to control boost and timing... anyone else have ideas??

 

[APEX 06]

Just want to post so I can follow this.

 

[BOUNTYHUNTER]

Just want to post so I can follow this.

Ditto

 

[spddmon]

the other thing to consider is on trail adjustability the rb3 is nice but you need a laptop to tune that can be a pain when out on the trail

 

[MrSled]

the other thing to consider is on trail adjustability the rb3 is nice but you need a laptop to tune that can be a pain when out on the trail

I was hoping to tune this thing in on the Dyno and get the map and fuel delivery as spot on as I can.

 

[yamiboost]

The biggest downfall with the gems for me was it gets wet so easily i ruined another one last week Im thinking about switching to rb3 i only ride at sealever so i shouldn't need to adjust it after its setup.

 

[stone88]

I found the boondocker box to be the best and most adjustable on the trail and was bulletproof for the 7000 miles that I used it now my buddy uses it on his stage 2 S/C with great results. If you want to play with timing I would use the PC111 but it will be alot more tuning and you will need a laptop to make changes. If you get your hands on a boondocker I will be able to give you a base set up for your sled, just need to know how much boost you are running and if you have a head shim or not.

 

[MrSled]

I found the boondocker box to be the best and most adjustable on the trail and was bulletproof for the 7000 miles that I used it now my buddy uses it on his stage 2 S/C with great results. If you want to play with timing I would use the PC111 but it will be alot more tuning and you will need a laptop to make changes. If you get your hands on a boondocker I will be able to give you a base set up for your sled, just need to know how much boost you are running and if you have a head shim or not.

Where can I get a Boon Docker??, I am running 10lbs with head shim. Will this give me the best fuel economy for trail riding too?

 

[stone88]

Unfortunatly 10# on a S/C and fuel economy dont go hand in hand, you can expect 80-90 miles to a tank but if your on it alot even less. There are a few used one's out there but you can call boondocker and see if they have some new one's in stock.. I will check with my buddy and see if he wants to part with it as he is talking about going turbo.

 

[MrSled]

Unfortunatly 10# on a S/C and fuel economy dont go hand in hand, you can expect 80-90 miles to a tank but if your on it alot even less. There are a few used one's out there but you can call boondocker and see if they have some new one's in stock.. I will check with my buddy and see if he wants to part with it as he is talking about going turbo.

I would like to see 10 to 12 MPG being gentle ....I dont think thats to unreasonable.

 

[Riceburner]

I would like to see 10 to 12 MPG being gentle ....I don't think that's to unreasonable.

Tom,

I had a hard time getting that on my blown RX 1 on 5.5 lbs being gentle. 10 yes, 12 no.

We just finished the build two weeks ago my former 06 Apex GT with a MPI Stage 1 and the new owner is running 6.5 lbs. Not getting near close to 10 to 12 MP per US G. Maybe 10 miles to a Canuck Gallon. Now mind you we are still tuning it and have been running it a little harder than normal to test things out.

That being said, I have owned a few 4 strokes and have not found an Apex yet that would come within 1.5 MPG of a RX 1 or Warrior.

Stone88 is not the first to say they get a lot thirstier on 10 lbs.

Oh yeah, we are are having a hard time achieving perfection with the Gems. Got a small pop/miss under hard acceleration from a standing start.

Dave

 

[MrSled]

I would like to see 10 to 12 MPG being gentle ....I don't think that's to unreasonable.

Tom,

I had a hard time getting that on my blown RX 1 on 5.5 lbs being gentle. 10 yes, 12 no.

We just finished the build two weeks ago my former 06 Apex GT with a MPI Stage 1 and the new owner is running 6.5 lbs. Not getting near close to 10 to 12 MP per US G. Maybe 10 miles to a Canuck Gallon. Now mind you we are still tuning it and have been running it a little harder than normal to test things out.

That being said, I have owned a few 4 strokes and have not found an Apex yet that would come within 1.5 MPG of a RX 1 or Warrior.

Stone88 is not the first to say they get a lot thirstier on 10 lbs.

Oh yeah, we are are having a hard time achieving perfection with the Gems. Got a small pop/miss under hard acceleration from a standing start.

Dave

I was going to send the Gem back to MPI and tell them to rework a few things to try and get some better results... Maybe a PCIII with some ad on might be a better bet.

 

[Riceburner]

It might be. I'm just getting started with the fuelie's so I can not give a solid informed opinion. Sorry.

Stone88 has some serious time working with blown sleds I am told and I have also been told by a reliable source he knows his stuff. Time this thread is around for awhile I am sure you will have some good info to help you make a decision

Gems is definitely fussy to tune and sometimes seems to go a little wacky. Not a great combo.

RX 1 seems like a piece of cake compared to an Apex. Sometimes new Technology is not better or easier to use.

If I boost the 2011 Apex I may try the new MCX Turbo this time.

However out on a lake two weeks ago; my bone Stock 2011 SE, my former SC RX 1 and my former SC Apex all GPS ed 170 to 172 KPH on glare ice in 1/4 mile or so. I may just stay close to stock with the 2011 Apex. Its a runner. Stock E-tecs and 800 R's are not a problem over 500'.

Dave

 

[FLYBYU]

you know MPI has a closed loop fuel system out now.

 

[MrSled]

you know MPI has a closed loop fuel system out now.

Had no idea. You have any info or a link to the new product?