Well guys, managed to get 400 miles on my new apex and was very impressed but for good measure got on a 2006 mach z x just like i used to have that my friend owns. We i lasted less than a mile, that sled was a POS compared to the new apex, i couldnt wait to get off of it. the suspension is terrible and even the engine was nothing to compare to the apex. I am very happy i switched to yamaha!!