06 Apex bars on an 03 RX1

[mulot30th]

I did that, and there is no problem!

 

[03rx1mn]

MulotTurbo

What exactly did you do?

Thank you all

 

[03rx1mn]

OK, so I have put the pieces together, and ultimately found that these Apex bars are not going to work on an 03 RX-1, and keep my hands warm. As I loved the way they felt, it was not going to work.

SO, here is the skinny. First, the Apex bars
Combined resistance of 4.6 ohms. That means 2. 3 ohms per side wired in Series. This draws 2.61 amps of current at 12 volts (All the way high). Creating 31 watts of power or heat at each grip. This coupled with the large metal hook that goes inside the outer part of the grip 1.24 inches, and the fact that the grip itself is only 4.5 inches, means that I am not producing enough current/heat to heat the bars where your hands are. The spot where the hook goes into the grip heats up at a rate of 50% slower, and colder due to the large metal bar to heat inside it.

Second is the stock RX-1 grips.
Combined resistance of 3.3 ohms. About 1.7 per side, and wired in series.
This draws 3.63 amps of current at 12 volts (High). Creating 44 watts of power or heat at each grip or 40% more heat. The stock grips also have a 5.5 inch grip length shich allows your whole hand to be on heat.

All these coupled together, led me to a decision. Have cold hands or cool grips and bars.......

I chose warm hands... Not looking back. Anyone want a like new set of Apex bars and gripps off an '06?

 

[Len Todd]

You have it figured out about right. Put a 2" riser under the '03s and you got it made.

 

[sostarn]

damnit... and i wanted to do this upgrade to my '03 RX1

if you wire it in parallel any difference?

 

[sostarn]

You have it figured out about right. Put a 2" riser under the '03s and you got it made.

but what about the bend? those are so nice for cornering...

 

[Len Todd]

For me, that comes into the realm of "want" versus "need."

 

[Rockmeister]

You can still add the hooks, I have seen a few people do it.

Use the slip in hooks and carefully grind down the lip on the end of the grip.

 

[03rx1mn]

No, I did not wire them in Parallel. On the 03, the grips revert to max when you start the sled. At 1 ohm (REsistance actual in average), it would be draweing 12 amps of cuurent through those little wires. SOmething would fry for sure.

Yes, I can put hooks on stock grips. (To answer a question)

TO answer the riser question. Yes, I know. That has nothing to do with how much heat the grips produce.

THanks all

 

[sostarn]

can you not solder in a resistor to reduce the amount of current going to the warmers?

 

[03rx1mn]

Yes one could run a wire, and put a large wattage 2 ohm resistor under the hood. That still does not solve the heat up problem where the Hook goes into the bar. it would help though. I am assuming that you are talking about wiring the Apex grips and bars in parallel, to combine resistance of 1.15, and then bringing total resistance to 3.3 as the stock ones are.

Thanks

 

[sostarn]

I can wrap my head around this. If you solder in a resistor to limit the excess current going to the bars, you are therefore giving enough current as it would be close to spec on an Apex, how would this not solve the problem?

 

[03rx1mn]

Per my earlier post

This coupled with the large metal hook that goes inside the outer part of the grip 1.24 inches, and the fact that the grip itself is only 4.5 inches, means that I am not producing enough current/heat to heat the bars where your hands are. The spot where the hook goes into the grip heats up at a rate of 50% slower, and colder due to the large metal bar to heat inside it.


The current would be increased, yes, but the portion that your hand sits on, has a solid piece of aluminum inside it, and takes a long time to heat that up. It would help though, as I replied.

Has anyone done this, and are they happy with the heat up time, and temp in "0" degree weather? I could not find anyone that had.

I have ridden in 20 below regular temp with the stock grips, and light gloves with absolutely no problem. I do not want to give that up either.

 

[03rx1mn]

I do LIKE the new bars however, and have a lot investes with the riser and all. Maybe I will try it, if no one else has,

 

[sostarn]

Yes, please do update if you end up trying that.

I'd try it myself if i had a set of '06 bars to play with...