35/39 Dalton Helix

[SideHogger]

Little video of a Thunder Products kit EVO stage 4 against a 220 Turbo Viper running another vendors clutch kit. All the kits out there are good, some will need a helix and some work better than others.

I'msorry nospro, but I take it the sidewinder is the one that is in the lead? Hard for me to tell in video. I'm getting old and can't see as well anymore. Lol Thanks.

 

[Jafo1970]

I'msorry nospro, but I take it the sidewinder is the one that is in the lead? Hard for me to tell in video. I'm getting old and can't see as well anymore. Lol Thanks.

Correct. The camera is on the viper.

 

[SideHogger]

Correct. The camera is on the viper.

Then.........WOW! LOL

 

[bleedyamaha]

Correct. The camera is on the viper.

Just to verify the guy with the camera and white windshield is the turbo Viper.

 

[newtron]

Isn't stage 4 260 hp?? I hope will train a viper with 220 hp. Lol. No matter what clutching it has

 

[dsimonRX1]

Eager to hear more results from the 35/39 helix for a full days ride. Planning on riding next weekend and would like to make the change before leaving.

 

[Keith Schmitz]

Eager to hear more results from the 35/39 helix for a full days ride. Planning on riding next weekend and would like to make the change before leaving.

Honestly, if you want it, go buy it. You won't go wrong with it, and if you would for some reason hate it, I'm sure someone here would buy it from you. I'm not good with clutching at all, or noticing differences, but the helix, IMO was noticeably better!

 

[jonlafon1]

Anything is better then stock. Well just about. Love my straight 38.

 

[dsimonRX1]

Honestly, if you want it, go buy it. You won't go wrong with it, and if you would for some reason hate it, I'm sure someone here would buy it from you. I'm not good with clutching at all, or noticing differences, but the helix, IMO was noticeably better!

I bought the helix tw0 weeks ago, then it rained and was warm with no snow!!! Haven't had a chance to try it, but I will put it on and start that way.

 

[Keith Schmitz]

I bought the helix tw0 weeks ago, then it rained and was warm with no snow!!! Haven't had a chance to try it, but I will put it on and start that way.

Wrap at 6-1. I honestly think you'll love it. Again, this is just an opinion.

 

[Beerman]

Nice, mainly for me hold it WOT in SNOW on long haul, and then same thing on road/ice long haul...want to know if rpms hold true or fall...

I have two springs coming tomorrow, and Hoping the 22 tooth going in too...then I can get things dialed here with that to start and see how things feel. Im more worried about the bottom end lag on initial hit. Once that is cured the helix stuff can get into later...I have a 37/33 coming tomorrow too for testing, but very open to testing the reverse angle.

Dan, I rode a bunch today with the spring wrapped at 3-3 and it doesn't't hold rpms on a long pull, they dropped off considerably. I'm taking Shagman's advice and trying the stock spring wrapped at 6-1 tomorrow to see if that fixes it.

 

[Snowaddict]

Mine is on the way. I'm curious if anyone else has ran it 3-3. That's where I'm at right now and was told to try it there first. Does rider weight matter?
Hoping to add a regular clutch kit to it eventually as well.

 

[ROCKERDAN]

Dan, I rode a bunch today with the spring wrapped at 3-3 and it doesn't't hold rpms on a long pull, they dropped off considerably. I'm taking Shagman's advice and trying the stock spring wrapped at 6-1 tomorrow to see if that fixes it.

I have alot more testing coming up, as I have a couple new primary springs now and rollers are here, and helix to try, and 22 gear is now in. gonna test 8dn vs 8jp as well, I want a sled that DOES NOT blow belts.

 

[Beerman]

Rode today with it wrapped at 6-1. Terrible conditions today for testing. The trails were very icy and the lakes were bumpy. I think in both conditions it was letting it upshift too quick and it was losing rpm on long pulls. But being on an icy trail (where I know I'm slipping) it was still better than when wrapped at 3-3 and I would see 8600 instead of the pathetic 8300. The one decent surface we did ride (trail through a farm field) it seemed to pull A LOT better and I saw 8800 but it was a short distance and I had to shut it down pretty quickly. I may have the 22 top gear in the next time I go out, I'm changing too many variables at one time but my track needs to come out anyway so now's the time.

 

[DMCTurbo]

I ran it at 6-1 and it felt to me like it always wanted to downshift. Set it back to 3-3 and I'm happier with it at 60 degrees. top end was 178kmh which is 1 better than what I ran with the stock 35. I'm holding rpms at 89-9000 throughout, running stm weights and softer spring up front. Shimmed my helix as well, it cleaned up my primary sheaves, very little if any slippage. Still running original belt and I'm over 2000k.