Alpha charge tubes

[fxnytrortxkid]

Most all performance turbo cars run aluminum tubing with silicone elbows or connections.

 

[Beerman]

Is there any benefit to silicone tubes other than looks?

I'd say "zero", but they do look cool! I get the theory of the aluminum charge tubes being able to dissipate some heat, but the air is moving through so fast I'm not sure you'd be able to measure the difference - but I agree they have to dissipate more than all silicone..

 

[stevewithOCD]

I think the silicone tubes were suppose to be stronger when adding more boost than stock and/or required if a lot of boost added.

The aluminum; or as some say aluminum; should in theory dissipate heat better & the silicone is an insulator. If the metal tube is colder due to cold air & snow hitting the aluminum surface, then the air touching it on the way through should be cooler.

We need our local authority from the TY division of Weights & Measurements to conduct an authentic experiment.

We call on BEERMAN!

I actually have a great idea to test this. As soon as i shoot 12 more pheasant, 10 quail, 8 ducks, 6 geese, 2 more deer & 1 more turkey (not in a pear tree) I will conduct this test...

 

[Sledroll]

What you got?

red/white

 

[**sj**]

Steve is the winner.... think air is moving through to fast? to make a difference... let me remind you of the intercooler function and all the hoopla about putting frog skin there.... the more surface area to wick the heat away that is being hit with cool air and moisture the cooler the charge.... think of them as additional heat sinks.. whereas silicone or rubber insulates

 

[hibshman25]

The heat sink concept was part of my reasoning behind the intercooler guard. By doing away with the nose cone it exposes the ends of the intercooler to fresh air and snow dust.

 

[4kops]

Plain aluminum pipes will get rid of the heat better the downfall is more connections. Those of you that want to polish and powder coat them you are going to retain more heat from my ecperience. I believe that’s way the brushed look. Looks better than plain aluminum with a uniform look. For those that have clamp issues look at a Breeze Constant Torque clamp I have them in.

 

[Beerman]

Steve is the winner.... think air is moving through to fast? to make a difference... let me remind you of the intercooler function and all the hoopla about putting frog skin there.... the more surface area to wick the heat away that is being hit with cool air and moisture the cooler the charge.... think of them as additional heat sinks.. whereas silicone or rubber insulates

Good point. But with all the fins the intercooler has a ton more surface area. But I do agree with you they should help lower air temps.

 

[ROCKERDAN]

I doubt any significant HP diff can be measured between stock, silicone, or alum....

Money is better spent on other items IMO....I was told from the early yammie guys before this sled was even released, that the stock charge tubes are very very high quality.

 

[**sj**]

I doubt any significant HP diff can be measured between stock, silicone, or alum....

Money is better spent on other items IMO....I was told from the early yammie guys before this sled was even released, that the stock charge tubes are very very high quality.

you yourself saw the charge tube expand...granted at high boost...silicone less....and aluminum zero....as you go up the boost ladder it becomes more important...if the charge tube expands your motor doesnt see that boost...this is why race motors have them!

And...so does heat dissipation...sum of the parts...and after a couple pulls you are building plenty of heat...there is a sizeable amount of cooling if the tubes are getting blasted with snow dust...or for those who are racing or radar running....when you pull over grab a handful of snow and lay it on the aluminum and tell me what you think then...


this will make more of a difference than the stock brv valve swap to ts at under 16lbs. boost levels...

 

[staggs65]

The heat sink concept was part of my reasoning behind the intercooler guard. By doing away with the nose cone it exposes the ends of the intercooler to fresh air and snow dust.

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Do you have any pics of that setup with the sled on the ground with all the body panels on?

 

[hibshman25]

Do you have any pics of that setup with the sled on the ground with all the body panels on?

There should be pics in this thread.

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/snow-free-intercooler-guard.148989/page-4

 

[stevewithOCD]

Steve is the winner.... think air is moving through to fast? to make a difference... let me remind you of the intercooler function and all the hoopla about putting frog skin there.... the more surface area to wick the heat away that is being hit with cool air and moisture the cooler the charge.... think of them as additional heat sinks.. whereas silicone or rubber insulates

YES I WIN! I believe in theory they will cool better, but in reality it's probably insignificant HP at least at stock. As boost goes up with tunes & such it will be more significant obviously. Dan is right, there are better places to spend money, but some guys like my Padawan BEERMAN love to fiddle with things.

 

[Beerman]

YES I WIN! I believe in theory they will cool better, but in reality it's probably insignificant HP at least at stock. As boost goes up with tunes & such it will be more significant obviously. Dan is right, there are better places to spend money, but some guys like my Padawan BEERMAN love to fiddle with things.

Ugh, I know. I'm sitting here wondering how much I can sell my used blue Alpha tubes for . . .

 

[full tilt viper]

Ordered mine on Thursday.