Am I in trouble

[Berg570]

It's fuel in the oil i'm sure, just do an oil change, leave the drain nut off for a few hours on the motor and tank, the oil has thinned out so much it will flow out pretty easily.., full it back up with the proper amount of oil also make sure you change the filter.. let it run for a bit and check the oil..you might need to do a second oil and filter change to make sure all the contaminated oil is out..

like I said, if you turned the key on with out actually starting the sled, (even just a couple 2-3 times) the fuel pump sprayed fuel on the top of the pistons and then the fuel seeped by the rings into the crankcase..Don't do that..lol

This is good to know!

 

[bbquadrider]

Put a flame near ..

You'll know if it's gas

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[Sevey]

Could someone repeat just how fuel would get into the oil system. The oil in that sled is a closed loop with no exposure to fuel????
MS

 

[bbquadrider]

Fuel gets into the oil when it runs too rich and goes past the rings or from injectors leaking and seeping past the rings.will also happen from cycling the key as the system primes by cycling the injectors for startup each time the key is turned on

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[yamalover93]

I think I would change the oil again after running it and warming it up by idling it till up to temperature at least once or till oil looks like pure oil. I think I would check the oil during this warm up and see how milky it gets watching fluid levels. I say think because I don't know how the water got in. I do know it does not take much water to turn oil milky. Water can get into the motor via condensation. Wet environment and temp changes pull air in and out of the motor. As the motor cools it draws in air full of moisture. As it warms it expels air but some of the moisture stays behind. Repeating this cycle over and over can create a buildup of water. If you ran the sled in the garage off and on over the summer you would warm the motor and as it cools it sucks moisture in. If the motor did not get hot enough long enough it doesn't dry out.

Wish I was there I'd smell and taste the oil by a little dab on the tongue and tell you if it had antifreeze (Ya I know gross). Do you know any mechanics you can take the oil to0? I want to help you but you have to be careful with this cause water in oil can do a lot of damage to any engine but to a high strung 11,000 rpm engine its brutal. Water hits babbit bearing at high load and lots of heat it explodes into steam and pushes out your lube so in effect you are running with dry bearings. Instant damage! As I said I'm leaning towards condensation not antifreeze by whats said but from here its just an educated guess.

I tasted the oil today no sweet taste at all! Actually kinda a bitter taste. I still think it smells a little gassy but maybe it's just me trying to make the situation seem better then it is. Tomorrow I'll taste some gas see if it's the same taste I tasted tonight! Lol [emoji14] hopefully they get that test done tomorrow I'm sick of waiting for the results. Plus....... I might tip over dead from tasting all this stuff if they don't give me a answer! [emoji12]

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[Sasquatch]

Easy on the tasting, have I created a monster? Old folks like me have no reason to live anyway, you may! Gas has more of a recognizable smell and taste's god awful horrible, I would not even dream of tasting it on purpose. Siphoned gas a few times and learned real quick there is a right way and the wrong way. Gas fumes are bad to inhale. A first run sled not ran and fully warmed up for sure I would expect a gas smell. Oil has a tendency to have a slight smell of gasoline from the combustion process and combustion chamber blow-by past the rings.

If you have some antifreeze take a smell, then after a bit smell your oil. Antifreeze is unmistakable in odor! Kind of a sickly sweet smell.

 

[Sasquatch]

There is no way that would be just condensation........look at how milky it is that is like a half a liter of water I would guess. Oil and gas separate so if he was just doing a oil change it wouldn't even look like that. I would say if it is under warranty you shouldn't even consider making it your problem and just take it in. I would be very surprised if it wasn't coolant.

Does not take much water to turn oil milky. Plus he ran it "a few times" then changed the oil, oil and water do separate but it takes time. I have a pail full of oil and water taken from my tractor, the water got in past the gear selector lever and I checked the oil and the dipstick was clean oil. I ran the tractor and then later checked the oil because I saw the torn boot and sure enough the oil was milky. I drained the oil out putting some in a glass jar. It took days for the oil and water to separate.

Oil and gas separate quickly but not oil and water. Now as far as Gasoline in oil I have never seen it turn milky and Rigidone he has already changed the oil once but I agree he should do it again at least once. I have been wrong before but he ran it a few times and never spoke of anything out of the ordinary plus I've changed oil that had gas mixed in it from flooding and it was not milky at all but man it reeked of gas so bad and it watered the eyes. So if it had even more gas, enough that could change the color of the oil Im then wondering why he did not notice and only says it kinda smells a bit of gas. The oil test will tell but I'm banking on water, you on gasoline. As long as its not antifreeze!

In the end it matters little who is right as long as he has it fixed and is back on the snow with nothing broken and cash in the pocket to ride with!

 

[yamalover93]

Well looks like I'm taking it to the shop. This just made my day

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[bbquadrider]

Don't panic ....is engine fully broke in
....that will put a lot of metal in the oil.....the water could be caused by not running it long enough to evaporate the condesation that happens and the fuel can be from too many quick starts and stops

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[tator]

there will always be a small amount of shavings in the oil. as far as the water it doesn't look real bad to me. if it where leaking bad the oil would be white. i say it is condensation build up. one quick way to check antifreeze is to start up and watch the overflow for bubbles. if the gasket is out it will pressurize the system on the compression stroke putting air bubbles in the antifreeze. i would change oil and run it for 3 hrs and check the oil again. if its leaking that will tell.

 

[03RX1-ER-LE]

Good thing I have a warranty on it

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If I am not mistaken he said it has a valid warranty still. Time to take it to them and let them decide the course of action to be taken. Just my .02

 

[bbquadrider]

Yeah can do that but you will pay if they don't find a problem

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[yamalover93]

Well sorry for the late follow up but been! Well to make it quick I called Hauck and asked them about the test...long story short they said don't worry about it to much they see it often from short rides and short start ups. So anyways they said take it for a ride when we get snow and ride it hard for 30-45 min then change the oil see if it comes out as cloudy if it does them wet have a problem. We'll I did all that and the oil came out looking brand new so I guess I'll keep a eye on the oil and see what happens. Thanks everyone for all the help I appreciate it! Here's some pics of the first ride in Wisconsin finally some snow to buzz around on!

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[bbquadrider]

Good deal...

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[yamariv]

Sweet! Keep us posted! Thanks for the update