TurboJamie
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supercat said:
I was a ski-doo man who bled yellow for 15 years I had a new sled every year. Each one was always a mod sled. I have had the Rev's from 03,04,then 05, and 06 Mach Z's. I also had and still have a rev chassis with a Price 1050cc tripple engine in it at 230hp on pump fuel. To be honest the rev is still light and nimble no matter how you look at it its a lighter sled and I honestly don't think it is a fair comparison to the Apex, that being said here are some other points. The Rev is a great handler but I have never owned a ski-doo ever that had enough suspension to jump/ditch bang that didn't need revalving at all. I weight 200 with gear. The apex by far is the smoothest riding sled I have ever sat on peroid that mono is the best in the biz bar none. I did have to add the heavier sping to my sled and stiffer sway bar but that was my preference it all depends how hard you ride. As for performance if you are looking to mod is which is probably why your in this section here goes.
You have to have a sense of what you are doing a turbo/sc is not just a bolt on hold it on the bar thing. It still requires some sense IE heat soaked intercoolers,long pulls,high engine temps etc... if you can get a good setup working for you and understand that you can only give these things a blast say 2000-2500' (which the race is WELL over by) then you are ok. All of us here have no problem giving advice to get you going on a boosted project.
For what I am doing 1:1 pulleys on a Stage 1 supercharger at 10,900-11,000 rpm I am on the EDGE of pump fuel but it works very well. Its fast as hell and has yet to be beat. However there is always someone faster out there so its not the be all end all.
If you are looking for a direct comparison brand for brand then look at comparing the *mighty* mach Z I had 2 of em. Weight wise they are very close people always bitch about the weight can anyone honestly say they can tell the difference between a full tank and empty tank of fuel?
Anyways stock for stock the 06 Mach Z(breank in passed) ran 114 in 2000' our stock apex with about 400 km on it turned a 115. STOCK!!! I clutched the mach and turned a 120 about 20 mins later.
Fast forward to the next weekend. Supercharged 5psi apex put about 4 school bus lengths on the mach z with clucthing in 2000'
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Thanks again for the info. One thing you mentioned that has me a little curious: It is safe to hold it on for a 2000' -2500' blast. What about trail riding, a long railroad grade, holding it at 80 to 90 or so for an extended time? (say maybe 5 miles or so) Is this going to cause a heat or other issues?
TurboJamie
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supercat said:
I am a trail rider myself Northern Ontario mostly lots of 100 MPH trails etc... I usually run 70-80 mph on the railways lines for miles on end. No problems at all. Just remember if you are going to line em up on the lake for a good pull you want your water temps and intercooler to be cool.
I HIGHLY recommend the addition of the rear heat exchanger on these sleds especially boosted on a short track. Good insurance for under 100 bucks!
To be honest I beat the living hell out of this thing on the edge of pump fuel all winter lots of long pulls longer then 2500' on the bar on pump fuel deep snow hot days you name it and never hurt it but to be safe if your not prepard to put a motor in it keep the boost down. For me its always go for broke so it doesn't matter. I would say the 5psi pulley setup spinning 10.800 ish making around 7 psi is more then safe on pump all day long.
I have no problem trail riding all day and then lining up on the lake to take home the prize. If your concerned with beating a Mach Z well a boosted apex will put school bus lenghts on everything short of an N20 powered ride. They turn some good numbers but just keep racing him till the bottle pressure drops or he runs out and its a done deal
