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Has anyone swapped their tuner 3’s out for yamahas mountain ski on their sidewinder? They come factory on the mountain sidewinders obviously, but looking to see if anyone has put them on their trail winders and if so how they perform? And what carbides are being used?
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Ive ran them on a few sleds now.
2018 Sidewinder LTX LE- 137x1.25" Unstudded
4" Round Bar Carbide- Very light steering, when running hard it would push a little when the snow was loose. Overall big improvement over Tuners.
6" Square Bar Carbides- Steering a bit heavier (Still less then Curves), much more positive bite, overall this was a good confident set up that you know is going to turn when you go into a corner.
2019 Sidewinder SRX LE- 137" x 1.00" Unstudded.
4" Round Bar Carbide- Same conditions as above, super light steering but needed a bit more carbide.
6" Round Bar Carbide- Works good so far with this track combo. Need to get more miles on to decide if i like the 6" round vs. the 6" Square.
Overall these skis work great, i ran Curve XS skis in the past but i find these are lighter steering then the Curves and offer great bite in the corners. They also do a great job of sitting on top of the snow, example going across a loose lake the skis will stay on top of the snow rather then sink like the Tuners.
Only Drawback are sometimes are low speed tight radius corners it doesn't turn as tight as it should, i think this is due to where the spindle is mounted in the skis. Small drawback for how good and cost effective these skis are.
Thats my 2c so far...
2018 Sidewinder LTX LE- 137x1.25" Unstudded
4" Round Bar Carbide- Very light steering, when running hard it would push a little when the snow was loose. Overall big improvement over Tuners.
6" Square Bar Carbides- Steering a bit heavier (Still less then Curves), much more positive bite, overall this was a good confident set up that you know is going to turn when you go into a corner.
2019 Sidewinder SRX LE- 137" x 1.00" Unstudded.
4" Round Bar Carbide- Same conditions as above, super light steering but needed a bit more carbide.
6" Round Bar Carbide- Works good so far with this track combo. Need to get more miles on to decide if i like the 6" round vs. the 6" Square.
Overall these skis work great, i ran Curve XS skis in the past but i find these are lighter steering then the Curves and offer great bite in the corners. They also do a great job of sitting on top of the snow, example going across a loose lake the skis will stay on top of the snow rather then sink like the Tuners.
Only Drawback are sometimes are low speed tight radius corners it doesn't turn as tight as it should, i think this is due to where the spindle is mounted in the skis. Small drawback for how good and cost effective these skis are.
Thats my 2c so far...
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Ive ran them on a few sleds now.
2018 Sidewinder LTX LE- 137x1.25" Unstudded
4" Round Bar Carbide- Very light steering, when running hard it would push a little when the snow was loose. Overall big improvement over Tuners.
6" Square Bar Carbides- Steering a bit heavier (Still less then Curves), much more positive bite, overall this was a good confident set up that you know is going to turn when you go into a corner.
2019 Sidewinder SRX LE- 137" x 1.00" Unstudded.
4" Round Bar Carbide- Same conditions as above, super light steering but needed a bit more carbide.
6" Round Bar Carbide- Works good so far with this track combo. Need to get more miles on to decide if i like the 6" round vs. the 6" Square.
Overall these skis work great, i ran Curve XS skis in the past but i find these are lighter steering then the Curves and offer great bite in the corners. They also do a great job of sitting on top of the snow, example going across a loose lake the skis will stay on top of the snow rather then sink like the Tuners.
Only Drawback are sometimes are low speed tight radius corners it doesn't turn as tight as it should, i think this is due to where the spindle is mounted in the skis. Small drawback for how good and cost effective these skis are.
Thats my 2c so far...
Great write up! Exactly the info I was looking for.
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Is this the part number 8KC-F3710-10-00 there are 2 types now the vk 540 professional and the mountain skisIve ran them on a few sleds now.
2018 Sidewinder LTX LE- 137x1.25" Unstudded
4" Round Bar Carbide- Very light steering, when running hard it would push a little when the snow was loose. Overall big improvement over Tuners.
6" Square Bar Carbides- Steering a bit heavier (Still less then Curves), much more positive bite, overall this was a good confident set up that you know is going to turn when you go into a corner.
2019 Sidewinder SRX LE- 137" x 1.00" Unstudded.
4" Round Bar Carbide- Same conditions as above, super light steering but needed a bit more carbide.
6" Round Bar Carbide- Works good so far with this track combo. Need to get more miles on to decide if i like the 6" round vs. the 6" Square.
Overall these skis work great, i ran Curve XS skis in the past but i find these are lighter steering then the Curves and offer great bite in the corners. They also do a great job of sitting on top of the snow, example going across a loose lake the skis will stay on top of the snow rather then sink like the Tuners.
Only Drawback are sometimes are low speed tight radius corners it doesn't turn as tight as it should, i think this is due to where the spindle is mounted in the skis. Small drawback for how good and cost effective these skis are.
Thats my 2c so far...
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I have enjoyed them on my BTX. My only gripe is they hold a massive amount of water in the pockets when I bring it in the shop to thaw. I loaded it back in the trailer and ended with and ice cube tray. Other then that they float well, turn well although I noticed its not as sharp like the guy mentioned. I am happy with them for now!
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Are they the same as the picture i posted looks like thats all you can get now can't seem to find the original mountan skis anymore,are they still available?I have enjoyed them on my BTX. My only gripe is they hold a massive amount of water in the pockets when I bring it in the shop to thaw. I loaded it back in the trailer and ended with and ice cube tray. Other then that they float well, turn well although I noticed its not as sharp like the guy mentioned. I am happy with them for now!
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Mine look a little different. I would snap a pict but damn thing is at Yamaha for mysterious water in oil issue. Grrr...
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The only ones i can find now look like the ones in the pic and they apear to be the VK540 professionals painted blue, its the same part number i had last year but looks like a different ski even the ones i saw at the toronto snow show were different any one know if they are still available?Mine look a little different. I would snap a pict but damn thing is at Yamaha for mysterious water in oil issue. Grrr...
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Is this the part number 8KC-F3710-10-00 there are 2 types now the vk 540 professional and the mountain skis
Same part # as the stock blue Mountain ski on the 2019 X-TX LE 141 w/o the 00 at the end according to parts fiche. White handles also same as part # in accessories website.
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I have them on my 17 Sidewinder BTX and have been very pleased with them on the trail.
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ThanksSame part # as the stock blue Mountain ski on the 2019 X-TX LE 141 w/o the 00 at the end according to parts fiche. White handles also same as part # in accessories website.
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I have them on my 17 Sidewinder BTX and have been very pleased with them on the trail.
I was under the impression those were Cat Mtn skis....when I got my used '17 B-TX it had those on it with single runner wear bars...I've run dual keel skis (Simmons or Curves) clear back to the late 90's and I hated the Mtn skis....they were all over the trail and cornered like sh*t....switched to Slydog Attack w/Slim Jim Dooly bars and now it rails, just like my Viper did with the Curves/Dooly's....FWIW
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How are the in the loose powder 6"-10" when the trails arent groomed do the push througj ghe cornersI was under the impression those were Cat Mtn skis....when I got my used '17 B-TX it had those on it with single runner wear bars...I've run dual keel skis (Simmons or Curves) clear back to the late 90's and I hated the Mtn skis....they were all over the trail and cornered like sh*t....switched to Slydog Attack w/Slim Jim Dooly bars and now it rails, just like my Viper did with the Curves/Dooly's....FWIW
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Looks like there not available any more i could look them up last year but its showing tuners on the xtx141 now maybe thats why they were back ordered until this yearSame part # as the stock blue Mountain ski on the 2019 X-TX LE 141 w/o the 00 at the end according to parts fiche. White handles also same as part # in accessories website.
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How are the in the loose powder 6"-10" when the trails arent groomed do the push througj ghe corners
I never really got to try them in those conditions....I had already switched to the Slydogs by the time we started getting pounded on a regular basis....I will say they were better than trail skis when doing a little off-trail but then there's not so much steering as pointing and leaning...
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