It says 230 when you build your package and says stock muffler as well. However, the pic to the left shows 250. I'm confused
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Yes, I wonder why that is also. I have to call TD tomorrow. I'll ask.
How is there English? I should call at some point as well. What you looking for?
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It's 'their' English.
It's good. As good as their French.
I'm calling them on another matter, but I've been wanting to ask about the 230-250 discrepancy.
I guess I'm no better. Keep me posted please
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It's 'their' English.
It's good. As good as their French.
I'm calling them on another matter, but I've been wanting to ask about the 230-250 discrepancy.
230 with stock muffler and 250 with their turboforce muffler. A 3” freeflow muffler adds 20hp or so.
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No, these were all stock muffler tunes.
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They may have it listed wrong.
If I scroll down further in the link I provided, it shows an ecotrail performance package with muffler at 250hp.
Ecotrail on its own should b 230 I would think.
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Here is a chart that Ben posted a while back and I think it’s still accurate.
I run Powertrail with TD CAI and SQ exhaust. It’s a very solid tune that’s been around for a few years. It will run 87 octane in a pinch but I have never needed to. Great power, never seen a knock light, improved fuel economy over stock, hour meter turns into boost gauge, etc. No need for a BOV or 3 bar map sensor. I am very happy with it. Leaving everything stock it looks like Powertrail runs around 250 hp. I would also talk to Ben about the best clutch set up for this tune.
In my opinion, if you’re looking for the best bang for your buck there is no need for a tune bundle. At the end of the day you have to decide what you want. If you want to race your buddies or go for top speed across a lake then get the credit card out and go nuts (lol). If you want to hit the trails and have a sled that’s one of the fastest compared the others in the group, then a good single tune is fine.
I run Powertrail with TD CAI and SQ exhaust. It’s a very solid tune that’s been around for a few years. It will run 87 octane in a pinch but I have never needed to. Great power, never seen a knock light, improved fuel economy over stock, hour meter turns into boost gauge, etc. No need for a BOV or 3 bar map sensor. I am very happy with it. Leaving everything stock it looks like Powertrail runs around 250 hp. I would also talk to Ben about the best clutch set up for this tune.
In my opinion, if you’re looking for the best bang for your buck there is no need for a tune bundle. At the end of the day you have to decide what you want. If you want to race your buddies or go for top speed across a lake then get the credit card out and go nuts (lol). If you want to hit the trails and have a sled that’s one of the fastest compared the others in the group, then a good single tune is fine.
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Sorry for the bad resolution, I will try again as a thumbnail. Unless someone has a better copy??
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Just remember BEST BANG for BUCK is what you are after.
There is also a 225 Hurricane tune that needs no to little clutch work & can run on 87 for less then $500 complete.
240 needed just weights & a spring.
Ecotrail can also run on stock clutching, but weights & spring recommended.
Captain Obvious says the MORE power you add, the more traction you'll need, shorter belt life and you'll turn into an OCTANE NAZI.
Next thing you know you'll be starting a thread on BEST STORAGE so you can carry 2 gallons of TORCO with you.
Then you'll need a Slide Ruler to calculate your octane at a hunting camp because the batteries froze in your calculator.
A bundle will not only COST more, but becomes useless without re-clutching and just tends to clog that brain when just trying to "make that corner" should be the only thing on your mind.
I'm NOT saying anything bad about anybody's decision for any tune, but the smaller tunes will fit this BEST BANG for BUCK thread.
P.S: Slide rulers cost about $20. Mo' Money!
P.S2: If you don't know how to use a Slide Ruler it will cost you Mo' Money to take a class
P.S3: If you don't know what a Slide Ruler is............................................you most likely think Justin Beiber is the King of Rock & Roll
There is also a 225 Hurricane tune that needs no to little clutch work & can run on 87 for less then $500 complete.
240 needed just weights & a spring.
Ecotrail can also run on stock clutching, but weights & spring recommended.
Captain Obvious says the MORE power you add, the more traction you'll need, shorter belt life and you'll turn into an OCTANE NAZI.
Next thing you know you'll be starting a thread on BEST STORAGE so you can carry 2 gallons of TORCO with you.
Then you'll need a Slide Ruler to calculate your octane at a hunting camp because the batteries froze in your calculator.
A bundle will not only COST more, but becomes useless without re-clutching and just tends to clog that brain when just trying to "make that corner" should be the only thing on your mind.
I'm NOT saying anything bad about anybody's decision for any tune, but the smaller tunes will fit this BEST BANG for BUCK thread.
P.S: Slide rulers cost about $20. Mo' Money!
P.S2: If you don't know how to use a Slide Ruler it will cost you Mo' Money to take a class
P.S3: If you don't know what a Slide Ruler is............................................you most likely think Justin Beiber is the King of Rock & Roll
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Although Elvis is considered the King & Chuck Berry the father, i believe Buddy Holly was actually a bigger influence on Rock & Roll
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Pick one tune say 270 and just control power with your thumb! Why have all the different tunes, just don’t push to full throttle ,push a little you will have about 220 push all the way 270, save money for other things.
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You're right.
Appears slightly misleading IMO the way it shows on website.
Ben did say that it is slightly more than 230 with ecotrail only, all else stock.
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Powertrail or 240 Sm tunes are the way to go. Put on that sticky XS 825 belt you could use stock clutching. My bud uses stock weights with Powertrail SM ,TP Orange spring in secondary, BSB Yamaha spring in the front , and a 35/39 helix with the XS belt. The sled is remarkably smooth with a nice low 2800 engagement and a 8800-9000 shift. Sled radared at 122 last year also. 2+k on his XS last year. I will be running MS 16 and will be experimenting with stock weights and dalton 70s also. Just need some snow!
