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Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!
Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!
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2 strokes??
I will be shocked if that is true. But if so, I know a few of my Yamaha faithful that will NOT go 4 stroke will be very pleased.
I will be shocked if that is true. But if so, I know a few of my Yamaha faithful that will NOT go 4 stroke will be very pleased.
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journeyman said:2 strokes??
I will be shocked if that is true. But if so, I know a few of my Yamaha faithful that will NOT go 4 stroke will be very pleased.
Well if the Cat and Yamaha are going to just end up being rebadges of each other I could see them both offering the same engine choices.
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Oh boy another thread about 2014...
raginyamaha
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y cant we just wait a week and discuss how dissapointed you are then..........
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By now the magazines have seen the 2014s but sign releases not to say a word about them. There is an interesting actical on Supertrax today "What if Yamaha built a 2Stroke again".
[web]http://www.supertraxmag.com/article.asp?nid=2482[/web]
[web]http://www.supertraxmag.com/article.asp?nid=2482[/web]
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Have a pair of Yam 2 S triples in an Exciter Jet boat and they are still a PITA ... would love to stuff a single SHO 1800 cc 4 S into it coupled to the two jet pumps ....
The 2 S are finicky, prone to failure and smelly regardless of who the OEM is. 2 S may have been fine in low hp fan cooled engines - yes they seem to run forever - but until they can consistently hold up for at least 10,000 km before rebuild then I'll stick with 4S. Judging by the posts / polls on other sites re the other OEM 2 S builders quite a few of the sleds only make it to 4000 km or less before major engine issue.
The 2 S are finicky, prone to failure and smelly regardless of who the OEM is. 2 S may have been fine in low hp fan cooled engines - yes they seem to run forever - but until they can consistently hold up for at least 10,000 km before rebuild then I'll stick with 4S. Judging by the posts / polls on other sites re the other OEM 2 S builders quite a few of the sleds only make it to 4000 km or less before major engine issue.
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HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???
EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
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X2! HPDI is a thing of the pastDoktorC said:HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???
EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
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you are right..people will find something else to whine aboutDoktorC said:HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???
EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
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Mpg is a deadissue 2 stroke to 4 stroke so close its a wash. The big key points are emissions ( burning oil ) and overall lifespan of the motors. When have we seena 50000 mile 2stroke? When has a 4 stroke rider added oil on a fuel stop? These are the main points. Guys I know are debating 4 stroke on the engine life not the mpg or anything else.
attak-d said:TheRiderScope
Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!
Looks to me like a blanket statement that covers all 4 brands. Dont read to much into this. Denny, quit spreading rumors!...lol
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My skidoo buddy heard of a etec2 so there might be truth to the new DI in that statement.
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attak-d said:TheRiderScope
Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!
I'll be surprised if 1/4 of this is true.
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