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Big New's! I hope so.

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Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection :) and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!
 

2 strokes??

I will be shocked if that is true. But if so, I know a few of my Yamaha faithful that will NOT go 4 stroke will be very pleased.
 
journeyman said:
2 strokes??

I will be shocked if that is true. But if so, I know a few of my Yamaha faithful that will NOT go 4 stroke will be very pleased.

Well if the Cat and Yamaha are going to just end up being rebadges of each other I could see them both offering the same engine choices.
 
:o| :o| :o| :o| :o| y cant we just wait a week and discuss how dissapointed you are then.......... :tg:
 
By now the magazines have seen the 2014s but sign releases not to say a word about them. There is an interesting actical on Supertrax today "What if Yamaha built a 2Stroke again".

[web]http://www.supertraxmag.com/article.asp?nid=2482[/web]
 
Have a pair of Yam 2 S triples in an Exciter Jet boat and they are still a PITA ... would love to stuff a single SHO 1800 cc 4 S into it coupled to the two jet pumps ....


The 2 S are finicky, prone to failure and smelly regardless of who the OEM is. 2 S may have been fine in low hp fan cooled engines - yes they seem to run forever - but until they can consistently hold up for at least 10,000 km before rebuild then I'll stick with 4S. Judging by the posts / polls on other sites re the other OEM 2 S builders quite a few of the sleds only make it to 4000 km or less before major engine issue.
 
HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???

EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
 
DoktorC said:
HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???

EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
X2! HPDI is a thing of the past
 
DoktorC said:
HPDI runs a power robbing pump that is not really condusive to its use on a small light weight sled engine. On a V6 outboard they rob about 15 crank hp and take up a lot of space. The supertrax guys are silly to think that Yamaha who has switched over 99% of their ENTIRE line to 4-strokes will go backwards and make a 2-stroke...which is dead technology. I loved my HPDI outboard but they've had the tech for 14 years...so why not use it when they actually built and were tooled up to build 2-strokes???

EVERY year is the same around here...3 more weeks everyone will be whining because the new turbo sled only comes in black you they wanted red....
:jump: :jump: you are right..people will find something else to whine about
 
Mpg is a deadissue 2 stroke to 4 stroke so close its a wash. The big key points are emissions ( burning oil ) and overall lifespan of the motors. When have we seena 50000 mile 2stroke? When has a 4 stroke rider added oil on a fuel stop? These are the main points. Guys I know are debating 4 stroke on the engine life not the mpg or anything else.
 
attak-d said:
TheRiderScope
Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection :) and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!

Looks to me like a blanket statement that covers all 4 brands. Dont read to much into this. Denny, quit spreading rumors!...lol
 
attak-d said:
TheRiderScope
Next week is BIG.. New 2 strokes, New chassis, New Models, New Pulleys and Belts, New Power Plants, Yes could 1000cc be back, New Direct Injection :) and 4 brands back racing!!! Ohhh and 2 got a DIET !!

I'll be surprised if 1/4 of this is true.
 


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