DennyTuna
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Stain it was a pleasure chatting with you. Glad to help out...anytime buddy!
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I now have @500 miles on my Elka shock/spring package and have made some strides.
First, let me say that John from Accelerated Technologies knows so much more than me about suspension set up it isn't even funny. It is his profession.
BUT I have to consider my own experience with the pro-cross chassis and my 20, 000 miles of seat time on them.
I tried the set up they sent me and adjusted to the best I could, with some help from Dennytuna.
I also pulled the limiter strap up (something I do NOT like to do) so that the whole skid hit the ground at once, not letting the front hit first.
In the end, it was just too stiff. The rear skid always rode "on top' of the bumps. I could not get the skid to soak up the small bumps.
Luckily, I have 2 2020 T-Cats I ride with for comparison and a stock T-Cat was much more compliant in the small stuff than I could achieve with the set up I was sent.
SO, with knowledge from my previous Viper/Sidewinder/ZR 800 suspension tuning, I made some changes from Accelerated's set up.
I installed rear stock springs.
All springs zero preload
I let my front strap out to just tight as it sits on the floor.
All compression setting to neutral and rebound settings to 3/4 adjustment to the quick side.
This set up is MUCH better, with the small studder bumps now being filtered out. Rebound was a little quick and I made those easy adjustments on the trail. I am now in a window where I can make small changes depending on trail conditions and feel the difference. It soaks up the big stuff really well.
Would I buy this set up again? Probably not, unless I went to the seller for a complete set up and fitment with my sled and a test day.
It IS better than stock, but is it worth what I paid better? I think I could have gone with some dual rate springs and revalve on the QS3's and been into it for half of what I paid.
The Elkas are a nice shock. They just haven't blown me away yet for the price, and that's what I expected. Maybe that changes with more seat time and adjustments.
I wish the transfer collars for the dual rate spring where adjustable like Hygear's. I found they were a useful tuning tool when I had those on my Viper. I wonder if anyone sells them for Elka's?
First, let me say that John from Accelerated Technologies knows so much more than me about suspension set up it isn't even funny. It is his profession.
BUT I have to consider my own experience with the pro-cross chassis and my 20, 000 miles of seat time on them.
I tried the set up they sent me and adjusted to the best I could, with some help from Dennytuna.
I also pulled the limiter strap up (something I do NOT like to do) so that the whole skid hit the ground at once, not letting the front hit first.
In the end, it was just too stiff. The rear skid always rode "on top' of the bumps. I could not get the skid to soak up the small bumps.
Luckily, I have 2 2020 T-Cats I ride with for comparison and a stock T-Cat was much more compliant in the small stuff than I could achieve with the set up I was sent.
SO, with knowledge from my previous Viper/Sidewinder/ZR 800 suspension tuning, I made some changes from Accelerated's set up.
I installed rear stock springs.
All springs zero preload
I let my front strap out to just tight as it sits on the floor.
All compression setting to neutral and rebound settings to 3/4 adjustment to the quick side.
This set up is MUCH better, with the small studder bumps now being filtered out. Rebound was a little quick and I made those easy adjustments on the trail. I am now in a window where I can make small changes depending on trail conditions and feel the difference. It soaks up the big stuff really well.
Would I buy this set up again? Probably not, unless I went to the seller for a complete set up and fitment with my sled and a test day.
It IS better than stock, but is it worth what I paid better? I think I could have gone with some dual rate springs and revalve on the QS3's and been into it for half of what I paid.
The Elkas are a nice shock. They just haven't blown me away yet for the price, and that's what I expected. Maybe that changes with more seat time and adjustments.
I wish the transfer collars for the dual rate spring where adjustable like Hygear's. I found they were a useful tuning tool when I had those on my Viper. I wonder if anyone sells them for Elka's?
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Just got these installed on my Deluxe model tonight. Just in time for the rain tomorrow. Fronts from Carver and rears from Yamaha. The sled was comfortable, but had too much give in the rough. If I set the fronts on 3, I can’t push the front down more than an inch.
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While the skid is out cut a piece of 1-1/4" black ABS pipe 4-1/4" long to close that gap under your torsion springs.Just got these installed on my Deluxe model tonight. Just in time for the rain tomorrow. Fronts from Carver and rears from Yamaha. The sled was comfortable, but had too much give in the rough. If I set the fronts on 3, I can’t push the front down more than an inch.
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I think I know what you mean but could you clarify what you do with the ABS pipeWhile the skid is out cut a piece of 1-1/4" black ABS pipe 4-1/4" long to close that gap under your torsion springs.
Sleeve inside the coils ???
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Just got these installed on my Deluxe model tonight. Just in time for the rain tomorrow. Fronts from Carver and rears from Yamaha. The sled was comfortable, but had too much give in the rough. If I set the fronts on 3, I can’t push the front down more than an inch.
You have to turn the Resi on that rear shock to the bottom so the compression adjustment it on the right side of the sled sitting on it, not the top like you have it in the picture.
AFWIW, 3 on the shocks is unusable unless you had them re-valved or weigh a whole bunch, or maybe you are like a Tucker Hibbert snow crosser I suppose.
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That's right.You have to turn the Resi on that rear shock to the bottom so the compression adjustment it on the right side of the sled sitting on it, not the top like you have it in the picture.
I had one come in this year mounted like this, track wore right through the reservoir.
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That's right.
I had one come in this year mounted like this, track wore right through
I will dYou have to turn the Resi on that rear shock to the bottom so the compression adjustment it on the right side of the sled sitting on it, not the top like you have it in the picture.
AFWIW, 3 on the shocks is unusable unless you had them re-valved or weigh a whole bunch, or maybe you are like a Tucker Hibbert snow crosser I suppose.
the reservoir.
Thank you for the help. Easy to do yet since I haven’t put the skid in.You have to turn the Resi on that rear shock to the bottom so the compression adjustment it on the right side of the sled sitting on it, not the top like you have it in the picture.
AFWIW, 3 on the shocks is unusable unless you had them re-valved or weigh a whole bunch, or maybe you are like a Tucker Hibbert snow crosser I suppose.
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It was Mike, I may not have noticed if he hadn't mentioned it.Thank you for the help. Easy to do yet since I haven’t put the skid in.
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Another 300 miles the last couple of days on the Elka's.
I am starting to get them really dialed and can see the befits.
They really work well in the chop when you pick up the pace. Dances right over the bumps. Same with the studder bumps.
I think I now have the fronts in a window where I can just move the compression adjuster a few clicks depending on trail and snow conditions.
Got the back narrowed down but I still think there is room for improvement.
With the lack of snow, it is hard to just go out by myself and get this all done at once.
I am starting to get them really dialed and can see the befits.
They really work well in the chop when you pick up the pace. Dances right over the bumps. Same with the studder bumps.
I think I now have the fronts in a window where I can just move the compression adjuster a few clicks depending on trail and snow conditions.
Got the back narrowed down but I still think there is room for improvement.
With the lack of snow, it is hard to just go out by myself and get this all done at once.
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Keep adjusting them. When they are dialed in they are truly amazing.
IMHO
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