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I spoke with Patrick at GAP and he stated:
Flashers with short harness by reverse:
"The Flashers consumes around 10 mA to stay alert or it would not be able to wake
up and work with the ECU. This is when the key is in the off position and sled is not in use. 10 mA will discharge a battery if the sled is left permanently without being started."
So I calculated a fully charged battery on these sleds can handle 10mA for 1800hrs or 75 days so if you leave your flasher hooked up your battery will be dead in 1 1/2 to 2 months if you don't touch it.
I would recommend to either unplug the flasher or put on a battery tender in the off season or anytime the sled will sit not in use for two weeks or more.
Here is the best way to hook up the flasher to be sure the sleep function is working:
-Turn ignition ON
-Connect the flasher
Ignition ON is the same as engine running, it will go to sleep in both occurrences.
Anti-Lag Harness at the Gauge hook-up: Flasher is connected differently on the Anti-Lag harness since there is a ignition (switched) 12V wire on which its connected. Consumption is therefore null with key at Off.
Flashers with short harness by reverse:
"The Flashers consumes around 10 mA to stay alert or it would not be able to wake
up and work with the ECU. This is when the key is in the off position and sled is not in use. 10 mA will discharge a battery if the sled is left permanently without being started."
So I calculated a fully charged battery on these sleds can handle 10mA for 1800hrs or 75 days so if you leave your flasher hooked up your battery will be dead in 1 1/2 to 2 months if you don't touch it.
I would recommend to either unplug the flasher or put on a battery tender in the off season or anytime the sled will sit not in use for two weeks or more.
Here is the best way to hook up the flasher to be sure the sleep function is working:
-Turn ignition ON
-Connect the flasher
Ignition ON is the same as engine running, it will go to sleep in both occurrences.
Anti-Lag Harness at the Gauge hook-up: Flasher is connected differently on the Anti-Lag harness since there is a ignition (switched) 12V wire on which its connected. Consumption is therefore null with key at Off.
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I guess Ive been lucky Tom, as I mentioned to you using a battery tender all summer. I did notice when I unplugged my tender for about 2 weeks, since i've got sled all apart working on it, That when i re-plugged the tender, it sat on charging(red light) for about 3 hrs. So the flasher is definitely pulling some power over time as you mentioned.
I guess for guys without a tender, it would surely make sense to just unplug the flasher, pretty simple and good tip....Thanks for bringing this up.
Maybe this will make the 'cluster flash' an even more enticing route for some, As I would assume that wont pull any power. Flasher does have some cool extra features though.
thanks
Dan
I guess for guys without a tender, it would surely make sense to just unplug the flasher, pretty simple and good tip....Thanks for bringing this up.
Maybe this will make the 'cluster flash' an even more enticing route for some, As I would assume that wont pull any power. Flasher does have some cool extra features though.
thanks
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I thought this was only when it was plugged in near the chain case. Not when its used with antilag harness.
My flasher has been plugged in since I received it a year ago. Installed with the antilag harness. I haven't had an issue.
My flasher has been plugged in since I received it a year ago. Installed with the antilag harness. I haven't had an issue.
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I thought this was only when it was plugged in near the chain case. Not when its used with antilag harness.
My understanding is its the same no matter where its plugged in. It still needs that 10mA to be in alert mode. This is the same on most car flashers that plug into the inspection ports. If you dont unplug them if when you put your car in storage it will kill the battery as well.
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uhhg. going to check today. not surprised. Just hope I left the thing unplugged
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uhhg. going to check today. not surprised. Just hope I left the thing unplugged
Thats why I made this post. I wanted people to be aware. A dead battery that sits to long can freeze and or have cells go bad with no charge.
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Tom, do you recall when the flashers first came out, I believe they were on fulltime, and pulling much more power and killing batteries very quick. And I believe GAP changed things so it was much better then it was originally. It must have just been on all the time(light on) originally i guess?
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Tom, do you recall when the flashers first came out, I believe they were on fulltime, and pulling much more power and killing batteries very quick. And I believe GAP changed things so it was much better then it was originally. It must have just been on all the time(light on) originally i guess?
From what I remember you are correct. The LED would stay on and never turn off. They have now put them into sleep mode that consumes way less and after talking with Patrick it sounds like they may even look into it further to reduce the off consumption even further if at all possible.
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From what I remember you are correct. The LED would stay on and never turn off. They have now put them into sleep mode that consumes way less and after talking with Patrick it sounds like they may even look into it further to reduce the off consumption even further if at all possible.
This is was I was thinking of. Regardless, no Problems here.
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So just unplug it(flasher) when not in use, and plug it back in when you're ready to ride...is that all that needs to be done to not kill our batteries if sled is sitting for a couple months??? This may sound stupid(haven't received my products yet), but is it just an easy plug/unplug set up with the flasher??? Or is there more to it than that??
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So just unplug it(flasher) when not in use, and plug it back in when you're ready to ride...is that all that needs to be done to not kill our batteries if sled is sitting for a couple months??? This may sound stupid(haven't received my products yet), but is it just an easy plug/unplug set up with the flasher??? Or is there more to it than that??
Its that easy, unplug flasher from the mini harness thats supplied. Its like a inspection/service port on a vehicle under the steering wheel.
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Yup. Happened to me. Went to move the sled in June and the battery was completely flat. No lights of any kind anywhere on the sled when I turned the key. Battery is toast and won't charge.
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Yup. Happened to me. Went to move the sled in June and the battery was completely flat. No lights of any kind anywhere on the sled when I turned the key. Battery is toast and won't charge.
I feel your pain. I had it happen after the season and then put in a new one and thought I killed it again. But the battery did recover. Slow 1 or 2 amp charge back to full is the best.
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Its that easy, unplug flasher from the mini harness thats supplied. Its like a inspection/service port on a vehicle under the steering wheel.
Ok then....that's easy enough. Just have to Remember to Unplug it if the sled is going to sit for a while(lol maybe not so easy to remember lol). Thanks so much for the reply.
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