my XTX setup, ride and review

[NOS-PRO]

sxr70001 - This will be a very fun winter

 

[yamadoo]

Man you guys are making me so excited

I can not wait to put some miles on this new Viper!!!!!!

 

[Yamadog]

I put 3000 miles on mine without doing anything buy tighten some loose bolts and change the stock carbides.

That's 3/4 of the life of a 2 stroke sled right there. With all the info that's been put on this site over the last year you will be having fun.

You have to edit that 3/4 of the life of a 2 stroke...... Polaris, Skidoo & Cat I still have a Yami 99 600 deluxe triple with 18,269 miles on it. I let my neighbors kid use it last season. It still has the original motor, track & shocks and in my opinion was one of the most fun sleds I ever rode. Not to mention my 98 SX 700 with 12,000 miles on the clock.

 

[yamadoo]

Yamadog I too have a 700 triple red head with BIG miles -14k- but we may the exception as I have also had to rebuild 2 strokes at 5-7k but NOT my Yamaha. I think that is one reason why we are still Yamaha and 4 stroke riders.

I think it is more rare but not unheard of for brand X 2 strokes to go over 10k

 

[sxr70001]

You have to edit that 3/4 of the life of a 2 stroke...... Polaris, Skidoo & Cat I still have a Yami 99 600 deluxe triple with 18,269 miles on it. I let my neighbors kid use it last season. It still has the original motor, track & shocks and in my opinion was one of the most fun sleds I ever rode. Not to mention my 98 SX 700 with 12,000 miles on the clock.

Yeah, I know, but it sounded good. I also have and SXR700 with over 5000 miles on it and still going strong, but I don't see that with my buddies ski doos very often. Not to pick on any brand. I also had a Polaris triple that I rebuilt 3 times in 2 years so I think the Yamahas have been exceptions to the rule.

I was just trying to encourage Yamadoo not to get to caught up in the web hype about all the problems the Viper is supposed to have.

 

[Yamadog]

SXR70001 I know I was just commenting on the old days I loved those sleds. I know a lot of guys that bought the Viper and love them (me included). In its stock form it is a good machine and has had only a few issues that were well documented on here. I don't take it as trying to scare anyone, we are just letting others know what we have experienced so others can be proactive.

I am Blue through and through, but still love to ride flickable sleds so I started buying a few Pol's and my 2012 Pro R 800 SB blew up at 860 miles and my buddies 2013 only made it about 425 miles before letting go. Funny thing he towed me out with an 05 RX-1 when mine blew up and then I towed him out with the Viper when his blew up.

In 17 yrs of hard riding (6 on 2 stroke yammi's) none of the triples were ever towed out due to motor ( I did throw a stud through heat exchanger 1 time) my 03 Rx-1 blew up on a high speed run down a rail grade at 7500 miles in 04. In 07 I built a stroked Apex motor and put it in the 03 RX chasis and it only lasted 3000 miles in 2 months and let go. I went 6 years till the polaris blew up in 2013 then the Viper blew up last season at 800ish miles. At least the Viper drove itself back to civilization on 1 and sometimes 2 cylinders to the trailer!!!!!

 

[yamadoo]

Yeah, I know, but it sounded good. I also have and SXR700 with over 5000 miles on it and still going strong, but I don't see that with my buddies ski doos very often. Not to pick on any brand. I also had a Polaris triple that I rebuilt 3 times in 2 years so I think the Yamahas have been exceptions to the rule.

I was just trying to encourage Yamadoo not to get to caught up in the web hype about all the problems the Viper is supposed to have.

I think you meant YAMADOG not Yamadoo, I tend to agree with him but we are different TYrs. LOL.

I do not think viper's have more than their 1st model year expected problems and I don't think he means to imply that as well.

 

[sxr70001]

Sorry about that. I didn't think anybody was being negative.

Just talking on the forum. its hard to read expressions online and it doesn't help that I can't type.

I'm not one to argue with anyone, I'm to old and life's too short.

 

[Yamadog]

No worries thats why I try to use a lot of emoticons

 

[yamaha06]

Is the xtx that much different then the ltx?? I just bought a brand new ltx se and am getting a 1.6" ice cobra track put on it. I have read about the xtx having uncoupled suspsension compared to the ltx but not sure what that all means. I liked the xtx but I do a lot of rougher trail riding, and with it being a bit longer I figured the 137 would be long enough since that's how long my nytro was.

 

[Yamadog]

Yes they are night and day. The ltx is a standard coupled suspension that moves as a unit parrallel to the ground. It stays flat on launch and is close to what you had in the Nytro. The XTX is uncoupled which means the front and rear of the skid move independantly from each other. On launch the sled rocks back hard and lifts the front end more like a seesaw which is better off trail more like a mountain sled skid. It does load the track better if drag racing but makes it more of a handfull to get through the tight twisties.

You will like that set up Yamahatim had the LTX with 1.6" ice cobra on it and it would go anywhere. It will not however left the skis more than a few inches. With the LTX you do have the adjustment of the coupling blocks to help dial in the suspension.

 

[NOS-PRO]

As Yamadog mentioned, there is a huge difference between the XTX and LTX. I was hesitant to buy the XTX, but oh so glad I did.

As far as cornering, mine rails like no tomorrow in the twisties. Tha's why they call me "the fading light"..... Once I get my game on....my tail light disappears, all that's left is snowdust

 

[yamaha06]

As Yamadog mentioned, there is a huge difference between the XTX and LTX. I was hesitant to buy the XTX, but oh so glad I did.

As far as cornering, mine rails like no tomorrow in the twisties. Tha's why they call me "the fading light"..... Once I get my game on....my tail light disappears, all that's left is snowdust

Oh really, now you guys are making me second guess my decision on buying the ltx haha. The xtx sure does sound like a fun machine! I liked the track on it that's why I decided to get the 1.6" ice cobra for the ltx so I can play off trail and not constantly be stuck like my other riding buddies. But I didn't know all the differences with the suspension, and wasn't sure if the xtx would be hard to handle in the trails since it's a little longer and if the skis pop up easy it might of taken more body language to control it.

 

[NOS-PRO]

Oh really, now you guys are making me second guess my decision on buying the ltx haha. The xtx sure does sound like a fun machine! I liked the track on it that's why I decided to get the 1.6" ice cobra for the ltx so I can play off trail and not constantly be stuck like my other riding buddies. But I didn't know all the differences with the suspension, and wasn't sure if the xtx would be hard to handle in the trails since it's a little longer and if the skis pop up easy it might of taken more body language to control it.

You have a great machine there bud! Don't let anyone tell you any different The best thing you did was put a 1.6" on, you will love that track.
People are correct with the difference between the coupled vs. un-coupled but in all reality, the suspensions are real close and all I have to do to keep the skis out from the clouds is put more pressure in the rear float shock. I'm at 135 psi right now and it's perfect for me. The LTX has more variables for tuning, but I know it can take a lot of abuse.

 

[stingray719]

Now bear in mind I am a mountain guy so take this with a grain of salt, but the Viper railed the trails here every bit as good as my RX1 OR my Apex did and it is an XTX long tracked and 38 inch front end. Lost some cornering after unhooking the sway bar though but not bad. We are mostly off trail but have to use the trails to get to the deep.