wavemaster
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Just curious, do you own a Viper? Has it left you stranded? How long have you been waiting for a fix for your actual issues? Or are you just bleeding on someone else's behalf?
As far as I know they worked on the deal for over 3 years and it was a per-existing chassis. This day and age that is not rushing to market.
Just my opinion.....
titanrcr
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2011 Apex
I thinks it's time to report this thread to the ASPCA, This poor old horse has been beat to death........................
excallibur101
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To answer your questions: Yes and an APEX XTX,yes,for sometime up until recently,speaking on my own behalf and helping others. Lets hope for better days ahead of us with lots of snow and good riding ahead of us. No opinion here just the facts.
stingray719
TY 4 Stroke God
Fan now takes cool air from the front air intake and blow it through the radiator.
Tested today for 3 hours. Ran at between 25 degrees to 35 degrees at 10k to 12k altitude on about 4 inches of snow on the road. The test,
1. Blue Viper radiator delete. 172 to 174 degrees for 3 hours of slow stop and go riding both ice scratchers down. Disclaimer -NOTE: worked for me do not do radiator delete.
2. Red Viper fan reversed. 160 to 174 same conditions. My big concern for fan reversal was 10 to 30 mph riding and it passed with flying colors. Disclaimer - NOTE: do not reverse fan connector
I put the disclaimer in as I am still testing. One trip does not a victory declare.
nate007
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Excalibur101, your post was edited to make it more than one sentence and maybe not as hard to understand.
Before this topic goes too far off track... I see lots of people failing to realize one thing quite often.
While ranting about quality control, is that although they are manufacturers, they are not Ford, GM, Crystler, etc. This is a powersport market, not an OEM automobile manufacturer. They don't have the nearly unlimited R&D resources, or huge teams of quality control people for every aspect. The market it's to small.
Think about it - out of sleds, motorcycles, 4 wheelers, or whatever else, what product sells the least number of units? It's the one thing that has the least amount of annual usage and the shortest seasons (generally).
If you expect a faultless product from something that holds what is arguably the smallest part of just about any vehicle market share, it's not going to happen. Sure, they probably share technology from other things, but honestly, I think TY members are probably the pickiest and most critical of most sled enthusiasts, and the most "progressive" owners when it comes to perfecting their sleds. I'm sure we all know people who know little more than how to start and ride their sleds, let alone re-engineer factory idiosyncrasies.
Compared to how sleds were built and sold even 15 years ago, I'd say things are pretty good, and if there's things I can do to make my sled better or "my own", so be it. That's what being an enthusiast is all about in my book. If there's a few known problems, so what? I'll figure them out and ride on!
Before this topic goes too far off track... I see lots of people failing to realize one thing quite often.
While ranting about quality control, is that although they are manufacturers, they are not Ford, GM, Crystler, etc. This is a powersport market, not an OEM automobile manufacturer. They don't have the nearly unlimited R&D resources, or huge teams of quality control people for every aspect. The market it's to small.
Think about it - out of sleds, motorcycles, 4 wheelers, or whatever else, what product sells the least number of units? It's the one thing that has the least amount of annual usage and the shortest seasons (generally).
If you expect a faultless product from something that holds what is arguably the smallest part of just about any vehicle market share, it's not going to happen. Sure, they probably share technology from other things, but honestly, I think TY members are probably the pickiest and most critical of most sled enthusiasts, and the most "progressive" owners when it comes to perfecting their sleds. I'm sure we all know people who know little more than how to start and ride their sleds, let alone re-engineer factory idiosyncrasies.
Compared to how sleds were built and sold even 15 years ago, I'd say things are pretty good, and if there's things I can do to make my sled better or "my own", so be it. That's what being an enthusiast is all about in my book. If there's a few known problems, so what? I'll figure them out and ride on!
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