Remote Start

[Redbeard]

Have to wonder if the problem starting sleds might need a valve adjustment. Temperature effects valve clearance and starting a lot. Poor cold starting is a symptom.

I would tend to agree with this, but my Apex will do the same on a warm day at home as well. Like Thor mentioned; I think they flood out. You can smell raw gas coming out the exhaust when cranking.

I guess outside temp wouldn't matter if the lash was out of spec enough though?

 

[thor452]

I would tend to agree with this, but my Apex will do the same on a warm day at home as well. Like Thor mentioned; I think they flood out. You can smell raw gas coming out the exhaust when cranking.

I guess outside temp wouldn't matter if the lash was out of spec enough though?

Mine is only is severe cold so valves could be an issue I guess. I wonder if MrSled has done a valve adjustment on the Apex motor before. I could bug him to let me bring it by and I could learn from the master the proper way to do it.

 

[kinger]

That is a bummer, my 06 SC starts awesome even in bitter cold. When I say awesome I mean it catches on the 5-6 revolutions, the sounds it makes at -25 on a cold start after it first catches is not so awesome. I put the remote starter on for the same reason just to keep it warm at night. I got the same response as Agman people waking me up at night saying someone is stealing our sleds LOL. I got so razzed about it never used it since for that purpose.

 

[thor452]

Thanks for the reply I am thinking I can plug in almost anywhere we go so maybe I will just put a inline coolant heater in it and see if that fixes it. Yours is a 06 right Kinger. I never had a problem with my 07 starting either. my 2012 has same issue before the SC install.

 

[Summitbeast]

I have the remote start on my S/C Nytro, have had it for 6 seasons now. Have had no issues with it.
I don't use it to often, usually just when we go out west and it is bitter cold at night.

It will keep your engine warm just like you want. The temp sensor will keep your under hood temp warm by starting when needed.
Only down side is people will hear it start up several times at night, make sure it is parked headlight away from the hotel or your headlight will be shining at someone's window.

Boy did I get a earful the first time I used it on a trip and had never given this a thought.
The guys wanted to know who the Hell was out running their sled in the middle of the night, and the headlight was shinning in their window! LOL

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I have the remote start on my S/C Nytro, have had it for 6 seasons now. Have had no issues with it.
I don't use it to often, usually just when we go out west and it is bitter cold at night.

It will keep your engine warm just like you want. The temp sensor will keep your under hood temp warm by starting when needed.
Only down side is people will hear it start up several times at night, make sure it is parked headlight away from the hotel or your headlight will be shining at someone's window.

Boy did I get a earful the first time I used it on a trip and had never given this a thought.
The guys wanted to know who the Hell was out running their sled in the middle of the night, and the headlight was shinning in their window! LOL

Hey bud i had one of these Sledstarts for a while now and just put it on my Nytro because it’s there and seems like I should try it. Hooked it up and it starts fine but doesn’t cut off when touch the brake or throttle. Did you have to do anything different when you hooked yours up. Thanks

 

[Agman 57]

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Hey bud i had one of these Sledstarts for a while now and just put it on my Nytro because it’s there and seems like I should try it. Hooked it up and it starts fine but doesn’t cut off when touch the brake or throttle. Did you have to do anything different when you hooked yours up. Thanks

Evening Summitbeast, I don’t remember to tell you the truth, it was 2010 when I installed it on my S/C Nytro. Do you have the instructions that came with it? All I did was follow them.
If you don’t have the instructions I may still have a copy of the out in the snowmobile shed, I could look to see if they are still out in the file. Good Luck, Dan

 

[Summitbeast]

Evening Summitbeast, I don’t remember to tell you the truth, it was 2010 when I installed it on my S/C Nytro. Do you have the instructions that came with it? All I did was follow them.
If you don’t have the instructions I may still have a copy of the out in the snowmobile shed, I could look to see if they are still out in the file. Good Luck, Dan

Evening Summitbeast, I don’t remember to tell you the truth, it was 2010 when I installed it on my S/C Nytro. Do you have the instructions that came with it? All I did was follow them.
If you don’t have the instructions I may still have a copy of the out in the snowmobile shed, I could look to see if they are still out in the file. Good Luck, Dan

Thanks for the reply Dan
I had a wire broke on the harness. Touching the brake shuts it down now but not sure the throttle. Revving the sled in the sleds don’t shut it down but everything else seems fine. Hopefully all is good there now. Thanks

 

[steiner]

Not sure about the software in the Sled Start but most remote starter systems only monitor tach signal on start up to ensure the motor did start and release the starter motor.

 

[RobX-1]

I'd have to dig it out to confirm the mfg but the one that was on my 08 Apex when I purchased it only had a plunger wired into it that you mounted next to the parking brake as the parking brake has to be set in order for the remote start kit to remotely start the sled. Once started, the remote starter kit was pretty much inactive as pressing the brake or giving it throttled did not kill power or shut off sled. Of course, this was probably an older remote starter kit as it was on an '08 that I purchased in '11 so maybe they have gotten more sophiscated.

 

[RobX-1]

I was able to check and it was a kit from Hauck Powersports where max rev was 5000 rpms (until key was inserted and turned to on position) and required that the parking brake be on. Maybe new ones have an option where pressing the brake will shut off engine without having to insert key but why couldn't the kill switch just be used. Seems odd the remote starter kit would have feature to touch brake to shut it off vs just using the kill switch.

 

[Summitbeast]

Not sure about the software in the Sled Start but most remote starter systems only monitor tach signal on start up to ensure the motor did start and release the starter motor.

That makes sense. Everything else seems good so that is probably the case with these sledstarts kits as well. Hopefully no one drives off with the sled on warm up.

 

[Summitbeast]

I was able to check and it was a kit from Hauck Powersports where max rev was 5000 rpms (until key was inserted and turned to on position) and required that the parking brake be on. Maybe new ones have an option where pressing the brake will shut off engine without having to insert key but why couldn't the kill switch just be used. Seems odd the remote starter kit would have feature to touch brake to shut it off vs just using the kill switch.

Thanks for the reply. This kit is a Sledstart. It is a true plug and play setup for the Yamaha sleds. It is designed to shut down if brake is applied as a safety feature I assume. Not sure about the rpm shut down as only testing it in the garage. Of course the kill switch can be used to shut down if you like. And of course inserting key disables the remote start. I had a broken wire in one of the harnesses that I repaired. It seems to operate correctly now but not able to check rpm shut down just yet.

I was able to check and it was a kit from Hauck Powersports where max rev was 5000 rpms (until key was inserted and turned to on position) and required that the parking brake be on. Maybe new ones have an option where pressing the brake will shut off engine without having to insert key but why couldn't the kill switch just be used. Seems odd the remote starter kit would have feature to touch brake to shut it off vs just using the kill switch.

 

[justafatman]

pardon my ignorance but I'm bored at work and reading random stuff, is the wiring harness plug for the temp sensor easily accessible?

My brain goes straight to. bring a 2nd temp sensor and plug in to get it started, idle fora few, plug real sensor back in. Would also be a way to test if the ECU reading the low temp is causing it to over fuel, if it thinks its not a cold start, and it starts fine. its not valve clearance, you know its in the tune then, yeah?

 

[Hunter7]

I have starting issues with my 2011 XTX sometimes too. It doesn’t have to be -30 either. If it starts after the first few cranks it’s all good but sometimes won’t start and after a few tries the battery gets weak and is turning it over too slow and I have to boost it. Then often it will fire up and then quit and die. After four or five times of firing up and dying it will finally stay running. As far as using the throttle at start up am I missing something here? I thought this was a big no no to touch the throttle at startup and not until the warmup light goes out on the display otherwise the plugs get severely fouled.

 

[maim]

I have starting issues with my 2011 XTX sometimes too. It doesn’t have to be -30 either. If it starts after the first few cranks it’s all good but sometimes won’t start and after a few tries the battery gets weak and is turning it over too slow and I have to boost it. Then often it will fire up and then quit and die. After four or five times of firing up and dying it will finally stay running. As far as using the throttle at start up am I missing something here? I thought this was a big no no to touch the throttle at startup and not until the warmup light goes out on the display otherwise the plugs get severely fouled.

miles?

how new are the plugs?