TRUE BLUE SINCE 1980
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D o - n o t - u s e - t h e - "O" word...... You are younger than the 6 or 8 of your buddies that used to ride With you. I am on the same page as you with age and that sweet blue Viper.... I guess it was to hard for Yamaha to make the Rtx dx in All the colors.
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I've got the LTX DX and it's the best trail sled I've ever ridden. Every one of my friends that have ridden my sled have commented on how plush the ride it but it still handles like it's on rails. It's perfectly fine in the rough stuff until they get to be about 10 inch tall moguls. I just slow down at that point. I'm over the days of beating on myself and the sled.
Jump that viper a few times equals revalving.
2014 viper, mpi
2009 Phazer 144"
2014 viper, mpi
2009 Phazer 144"
Just remember not all are going faster in big ones or jumping. They will be very happy with DX.
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Compared to most, I am really old (64) and I rode 140 miles on Sunday, most of it on pretty sloppy trails ridden hard since they were last groomed, and the rest, just plain rough. I was on my DX LTX, and my grandson was on his phazer GT. At 12 years old, he loves the the rough trails, and at my age (as long as I am on my Viper) I love them too!
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x2 on that!! I've had 3 Apexes and an SRX prior to my '15 LTX-DX and I'm absolutly in love with it.
Again....plush ride and handles very well. (Even the heated seat is the cat's #*$&@) Ha! "Cat's #*$&@".
Again....plush ride and handles very well. (Even the heated seat is the cat's #*$&@) Ha! "Cat's #*$&@".
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I'm 47 and I love the float 3's on my 15 LTX SE....I run them at 70psi with the skis off the ground. They preformed awesome for the 300 mile trip of mostly tore up trails in the U.P....
I'm a mid (going on late) 40's Grandpa that was out of snowmobiling for 15yrs. I like to ride aggressive at times and moderate at others. I knew from past experience that more often than not the trails are pounded especially on weekends. We used to ride Thursday's back in the day as a buddy had the day off and the trails were typically groomed Wednesday night. Riding weekdays takes time away from work and compounds the cost. These days I can afford the cost, but cannot afford the time away from the business so I am a weekend and Holiday rider.
I decided to buy 2 sleds this year. His and Hers although I wanted hers to be easily 2-up for the grandkids and also something that I would enjoy. I went with the Renegade 900 ACE for her for the coil spring and smooth ride, plus mild manners. I went with RTX LE which is more of a ditch banger type sled for me as I ride harder and faster with the guys. I knew that the RTX shock package was excessively stiff and that I would need to revalve them, but this was not a big deal. I was after the clicker adjustability so that I could tune to suit my preference.
The Doo with the R motion is a VERY nice sled. It is quite plush on the trails and handles the rough pretty well. The RTX has been too stiff on the chop, but I just had the shock valving done and have not yet had a chance to ride. In my opinion, the RTX can attack the rough stuff where the Doo will perform well but you can't run as fast as the suspension is just a bit on the slow to reset side. Had the Doo been available with the X pkg shocks I'd have probably gone that route. Having a remote reservoir and clickers to tune is more than a novelty to me.
I decided to buy 2 sleds this year. His and Hers although I wanted hers to be easily 2-up for the grandkids and also something that I would enjoy. I went with the Renegade 900 ACE for her for the coil spring and smooth ride, plus mild manners. I went with RTX LE which is more of a ditch banger type sled for me as I ride harder and faster with the guys. I knew that the RTX shock package was excessively stiff and that I would need to revalve them, but this was not a big deal. I was after the clicker adjustability so that I could tune to suit my preference.
The Doo with the R motion is a VERY nice sled. It is quite plush on the trails and handles the rough pretty well. The RTX has been too stiff on the chop, but I just had the shock valving done and have not yet had a chance to ride. In my opinion, the RTX can attack the rough stuff where the Doo will perform well but you can't run as fast as the suspension is just a bit on the slow to reset side. Had the Doo been available with the X pkg shocks I'd have probably gone that route. Having a remote reservoir and clickers to tune is more than a novelty to me.
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Also remember when a Fox float fails on the trail you have no spring to hold the sled up. I have seen it twice. I had 1 pair of floats--not a fan.
True but usually very simple fix. Schrader valve. Worth trade off to me and if one of my fronts ever fail I will just move center shock spring up one thread and keep the skis in air most of time!
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Yeah, these were not valve problems, shock was leaking internally. I found it hard to make an air shock have the same range of capability as a good dual rate or triple rate spring. Maybe the Evolve's are different but I was not going to spend the coin on those after my experience with the Floats. Not to mention the constant checking of pressure day to day and when temp changes. They seem better suited to mountain riders. But to each his own.....
I hear you. I have done hundreds of Floats and never saw one leaking air internally. How do you know that is what happened? My Evols did require a commitment to adjusting but have not touched them for over 2000mi now and they rock in all conditions. All who have ridden my sled are very impressed even Doo guys. Well worth the $ and time.
Maybe the best thing I can say is pick the one that feels like a Skidoo. Seriously.
With the sleds on a flat surface, grab the rear bumper by hand and try to cycle the suspension rapidly up and down. Feel how smoothly and easily a std Renegade or TNT strokes. Then try the Viper. You can do the same in the front, but the Viper bumper has a lot of give in it.
I haven't tried the Viper DX model, but I don't think it is as free as the Doo is. My RTX LE with the special ditch banger shocks is now, but it was not that way from new. I had to have the shocks revalved by Carver to get it there. A revalve is $25 per shock, but you also have the cost of a service as well. Mine were all the expensive models with reservoirs etc and it cost about $300
I haven't ridden mine since the revalve, but after riding Cannondale's sled and feeling how free his was I know I will be in for a treat.
