Ikenheimer
Veteran
Trail riding and they were in decent shape but several sections with stutters and rough trail. Would not call it plush, but definitely way better. Still had the bib bump compliance when you hammer through it. Stutters were not bad-going to back of center shock a bit as I could still feel bumps through the feet. No where close to bottoming even with springs on soft. The shock shop had to take three shots at re-valving as the rebound is way slow and compression is stiff. I like that you could be at trails speeds and hit the throttle and feel the front end pull up and it was easier to get some air out of it. Had similar experience as you prior-ride was not bad, just very stiff and the sled felt like it lacked a personality as it stayed so flat. I would be curious to ride a LXR version Cat as they have a softer shock. Looks like the shock for that model is $168 so it would be interesting if anyone has tried that sled out for ride?
Studroes144
TY 4 Stroke God
Your rebound was too slow? Mine is too fast! Compression seems slow and rebound throws me off the seat when I'm sitting. The more info I'm hearing the more I'm thinking that even identical models are setup differently as far as shock valving.
Thumper1
Extreme
Studroes144 said:
my guess is that you are not experiecing too fast of rebound, you are experiecing your rear suspension is just packing and not absorbing the bumps so you are just bouncing off them. the rebound is too slow to spring back and absorb the next bump.
if you put all your weight on the back of the bumper and push down, how fast does it come up? my ltx se on full soft setting on the springs takes long enought to pop back up to each a grilled cheese sandwich. that is not too fast of rebound in my opinion.
Studroes144
TY 4 Stroke God
If I push the back of my sled down so that the transfer arms hit and then let go it is fully rebounded in less than a second. I think a lot of it has to do with the stiff springs but if valving was better and it compressed faster and rebounded slower It would help alot
Thumper1
Extreme
Studroes144 said:
hmmmm, that is just weird. mine would finally act that way after i took the shock out and just had the springs only. dunno......
Studroes144
TY 4 Stroke God
I think shock valving being way off and heavy springs is just throwing everything off
ess
Veteran
fxnytroxtx said:
Alex, Glad to hear you have some improvement with your re-valving. I got word back from the guy with with the RTX and he had favorable results also from the changes I made. He made one comment that the spring tension now felt slightly soft on the lightest setting due to some bottoming out from time to time and felt a little to stiff on the medium setting. I suggested that he put torsion spring tension one side on the lightest and the other side on medium. haven't head back from he yet on that setup. He is about a 245lb rider. In the front I also pulled his limiter strap up to the 3rd hole and left the center spring tension at stock. Stop by if you want to make any more adjustments to your valving.
ess
Veteran
If your rear suspension rebounds in less than a second from a near full compression your shock needs to get serviced or replaced!Studroes144 said:
Ikenheimer
Veteran
My rebound was slower than the second coming. Had a Apex and Nytro with us and compared to them it was way slow. I think what you are seeing is that it is so stiff it does not allow it to compress so it feels like it is rebounding fast. Take out that rear shock and compress it (you need two men and a horse to compress it) and watch the rebound. I bet it take 5 seconds to come all the way out.
Ikenheimer
Veteran
Seems weird-Thumper seems like we are having about the same experience.
Thumper1
Extreme
Ikenheimer said:
yep, your right. we did the same thing, think my buddy smoked a cigerette in the time it took for it to fully extend.
Studroes144
TY 4 Stroke God
So people are thinking that it's just the torsion springs being too stiff? With softer springs is there even gonna be a need for a revalve?
Thumper1
Extreme
softer springs would only make it rebound slower still. im going with a revalve first and see what that does. will be a couple weeks before i get it back though.
Studroes144
TY 4 Stroke God
Seems as tho everyone is having opposite results I have. My rebound is about 1 second. Push the grab bar down until the rear transfer arm hits and let it go and it fully rebounds in 1 second. It doesn't at as it the shock it blown because it is controlled and it doesn't just spring but it is way too fast.
ess
Veteran
I can test and revalve your shock with one day turn when I receive it. I also provide a dyno sheet with the original received baseline results and final calibration. PM if your interested.
