Super Tip Setup for Vector

[Buster696]

Guys,
For those who have Supertips either from Ulmer Racing or on your own.
What's the combo you are starting with for a 2010 Vector LTX. I have a set of Super Tips and want to do some testing tonight. I have a lot of primary and secondary springs in my box. Oh, yea... and a boat load of helix's as well. Just need a starting weight combo/pri-spring/sec-spring starting point.

Thanks,
--Buster696--

btw. I love this sled

 

[RSVECTORFREAK]

I'm have the same problem. A friend on here sent me this combo for his 07 Nytro. I am going to try his setup and adjust from there since I am alot heavier than his weight.

Sled 07 rs nytro
Clutching stage 2
Rider weight 160
Primary spring 0-P-O
Rollers stock
Weights 50Y
Heel Tungsten-1 mid 0 tip 1-0
Secondary spring stock
Helix K
Spring wrap 6-1

 

[Buster696]

Thanks for the response. I’ve got the 60g weights (from my Apex setup/sled is gone now) and a suggested setup from Allen Ulmer. I put that in with a slightly different spring combo (a little high on rpm), and made one adjustment after that. Sled pulls right to 8,300~8,400. I’m thinking this sled likes to be lower around 7,900 then climb to 8,200 because of the torque. So, I’m going to make that adjustment.

Final setup will be:
60g ST (6g/0g/2g)
Y-S-Y
14.5 rollers
49/41 @ 80 Pink
23/39 gearing (may go to a 22gear after I pick up a 68 link chain, but want to see how this setup does again other sleds and for trail).

This setup seems responsive and backshifts well. I had a 06 apex and had that running strong, but this sled flat out rocks. It’s a sweet trail sled and glad I picked it up. I think my Apex/Nytro buds are in for a surprise Of course I'll always be tweeking this setup to get more, but for now it's a good starting point. Also, can anyone tell me where peak HP for this motor (rpm)?

Thanks again to Allen for a starting point.

--Buster696--

 

[Beech]

I found it performs best between 8400 to 8600.
I tried lower and it does not hold rpm in soft snow
or accelrate as well.

 

[RSVECTORFREAK]

Yeah I agree I always try to clutch for 8600 on this motor.

 

[Srxspec]

You guys are talking about two different styles of Vector motors.

2005 to 2009 likes 8400 to 8600 rpm stock.

2010 to 2011 likes 7900 to 8200 rpm stock.

Also you can't compare setups between the two either as they require different weight settings because of the differing RPM ranges they like to run in.

 

[Srxspec]

2010 Vector:
2010 Yamaha Vector EFI
RPM TQ HP
5800 92.4 102.0
5900 92.0 103.4
6000 92.3 105.4
6100 91.5 106.3
6200 91.5 108.1
6300 92.3 110.7
6400 92.6 112.9
6500 93.0 115.0
6600 92.3 116.0
6700 93.4 119.2
6800 93.1 120.5
6900 93.0 122.2
7000 92.5 123.3
7100 92.2 124.6
7200 91.1 124.9
7300 90.1 125.2
7400 90.7 127.8
7500 89.6 127.9
7600 89.5 129.5
7700 89.0 130.5
7800 88.1 130.8
7900 87.1 131.1
8000 86.3 131.5
8100 85.2 131.5
8200 83.6 130.5
8300 83.3 131.6
8400 81.0 129.6
8500 78.8 127.6
8600 78.1 127.9
8700 76.4 126.6
8800 74.2 124.3

 

[Srxspec]

2005 Yamaha Vector
RPM TQ HP
5000 74.1 70.4
5100 73.7 71.5
5200 74.1 73.3
5300 74.9 75.6
5400 75.7 77.9
5500 76.5 80.1
5600 77.6 82.8
5700 76.9 83.5
5800 76.9 85.1
5900 77.5 87.1
6000 77.3 88.3
6100 77.5 90.1
6200 77.6 91.6
6300 77.6 93.1
6400 78.1 95.1
6500 78.9 97.7
6600 79.6 100.1
6700 80.2 102.3
6800 79.5 102.9
6900 80.8 106.2
7000 80.3 107.1
7100 79.4 107.3
7200 79.9 109.5
7300 79.6 110.6
7400 79.4 111.9
7500 79.7 113.8
7600 78.9 114.1
7700 78.3 114.7
7800 79.3 117.8
7900 77.7 116.8
8000 76.6 116.7
8100 75.5 116.4
8200 75.4 117.7
8300 73.7 116.5
8400 73.5 117.5
8500 73.2 118.4
8600 72.5 118.8
8700 71.6 118.6
8800 70.5 118.1
8900 69.2 117.3
9000 68.4 117.2
9100 67.9 117.6
9200 65.9 115.5
9300 64.7 114.6
9400 63.5 113.6

 

[RSVECTORFREAK]

Thanks for clearing that up!!

Now that I know that it looks like I need an Excell header from Allen to make up some of the difference.

 

[Beech]

Mine is a 2010 LTX FI
When I tried clutching for 8200 rpm on a long lake
run in soft snow the rpm would fall off big time and
speed would drop off. This is with your clutch kit
Allen. It just seems best overall in the 8400-8600
under all snow condtions.

 

[Srxspec]

Mine is a 2010 LTX FI
When I tried clutching for 8200 rpm on a long lake
run in soft snow the rpm would fall off big time and
speed would drop off. This is with your clutch kit
Allen. It just seems best overall in the 8400-8600
under all snow condtions.

The RPM that I specified is on a hard packed trail. If you run alot of loose or soft snow, then you will over rev on hard pack and sacrifice some performance to maintain proper RPM in softer or loose snow conditions.