Thinking of buying

[SnoNinja]

You will be very happy with a Viper. With proper set up (like all sleds) they will rail in the trail, and are also a blast off trail. All the info you need to enjoy the Viper is here on TY if you search or simply ask. Are they perfect, no but is any sled for that matter? I bought mine after riding one, and am sooooo happy with the decision. Took a little tweaking to get it right, but once you set it up for your riding style it is a rush. You will get beat on the lake by the big 2 strokes, but it doesn't sound like that matters to you. In the twisties, the 1049 is fantastic. When clutched right, it's plenty fast enough to keep most people happy.

Haters be gone.

 

[RTX]

I hated my viper when i originally bought it.
I had an apex with 13000 miles on it and had it set up perfectly to my liking.
For me, the viper was a huge drop in power,and while i really believed this would not be a problem for me, i struggled with it a lot in the beginning.
I posted questions, tried different setups, spent a little money, and im happy to say that i now love the viper.
Set up properly it is an incredible trail sled.
With some cheap clutching mods ive seen it go from an 85 mph top speed to 94 mph top speed.
And i know with some tweaks i can get more out of it.
I am in love with the ride and seating position of the viper. I also love the corner to corner torque of the 3cylinder motor.
Afetr a few tweeks it has become an awsome trail sled

Personally i dont think seanpen got a bad sled. I think he either does not know how to get a sled to handle or was unwilling to try making changes to get his sled to handle. Theres tons of guys out there just like him.
I know plenty of guys that never adjust a shock, never ever change a suspension setting, never even consider revalving a shock, wont try different skis or even carbides, then when we get to riding hard and fast, they just cant understand why they cant hang. LOL

Shocks, and suspensions have adjustments for a reason. The reason is to adjust to the individual riders liking and needs
Its too bad for sean, he is missing out on a great sled.

To the original poster if your anything like me and want to get the absolute best handeling and performance from your viper. Be prepared to spend a little bit of time on some simple suspension set up. Buy a good adjustable weight clutch kit, and give the motor some time to loosen up, it picks up more speed over time.
I think if you can do this, you will be happy with the viper

 

[stingray719]

I hated my viper when i originally bought it.
I had an apex with 13000 miles on it and had it set up perfectly to my liking.
For me, the viper was a huge drop in power,and while i really believed this would not be a problem for me, i struggled with it a lot in the beginning.
I posted questions, tried different setups, spent a little money, and im happy to say that i now love the viper.
Set up properly it is an incredible trail sled.
With some cheap clutching mods ive seen it go from an 85 mph top speed to 94 mph top speed.
And i know with some tweaks i can get more out of it.
I am in love with the ride and seating position of the viper. I also love the corner to corner torque of the 3cylinder motor.
Afetr a few tweeks it has become an awsome trail sled

Personally i dont think seanpen got a bad sled. I think he either does not know how to get a sled to handle or was unwilling to try making changes to get his sled to handle. Theres tons of guys out there just like him.
I know plenty of guys that never adjust a shock, never ever change a suspension setting, never even consider revalving a shock, wont try different skis or even carbides, then when we get to riding hard and fast, they just cant understand why they cant hang. LOL

Shocks, and suspensions have adjustments for a reason. The reason is to adjust to the individual riders liking and needs
Its too bad for sean, he is missing out on a great sled.

To the original poster if your anything like me and want to get the absolute best handeling and performance from your viper. Be prepared to spend a little bit of time on some simple suspension set up. Buy a good adjustable weight clutch kit, and give the motor some time to loosen up, it picks up more speed over time.
I think if you can do this, you will be happy with the viper

Agreed, when we got our first Viper it was for the girlfriend because of the ride (had to get her off Phazer before she quit going with me). After riding it beside my 2014 M8 I could tell something was wrong so off I went to figure out why and the "clutching on the cheap" and "front skid shock mod" was born. I liked the results so much I sold my 2014 M8 and took a big loss to buy a 2014 Viper XTX and convert to a mountain sled. Couldn't be happier.

But over on that "other site" guys are trying to cheap sell their MTX Vipers as they handle horrible, and yes they are very front end heavy if you don't change out the front skid shock spring. But 30 to 50 bucks for a skid shock spring and WOW now this sled rocks. So to the guys that bought an MTX and spent thousands on a turbo and now sell it for half what they spent because a shock spring change is out of their budget I cannot help you (non XTX and MTX guys please ignore as your sled has the stiffer spring in it)

 

[Yamadog]

If you don't like vipers Sean why are you reading posts and starting crap. It's ok to share your opinion but why so negative. If you don't like it just move along. Doesn't even sound like you have a Yamaha anymore.

Probably no one listens to him over on doowalk-home