2006 Mar TY Muni ride - Thanks and 07 Phazer impressions

[Crewchief47]

You know, I saw it there and assumed it was a tool kit. Now looking at it in the pic, it looks like it may have room for a belt and tools. Hmmmmm.....

 

[Paul_Aris]

It was in response to this:

"That Phazer was very easy to stand and ride on. Something definately different. Yamaha found the latest niche of snowmobilers."

I don't think Yamah found anything. I just thing the adapted a 4 stroke to a style of sled that has been working great since 03. I've been riding sleds my whole life and have only owned one ski-doo so don't think it is bias. I Actually was very impressed when I saw the phazer but I am looking for more HP for my next sled.

Yamaha has found a niche market. The REV 440 from the Factory is a race sled that requires race gas. To make it trail friendly you must add a proper sized gas tank, Oil injection, and drop the compression/timing to run Pump gas. Which puts that sled in the 80 to 90 HP range. Lets not even get into price comparisons. You can get a Phaser for 5K. On the Race program the REV 440 was 6800.00 bucks this year. That's for a racer. I'm guessing teh general public would be looking at 8K for one of these puppys

You might ask how I know this. I know a couple guys that race Snow Cross. they gave me the pricing!!!

Yes, and the only difference between a 440 and a Consumer REV is Bracing and a bigger motor. So yes any consumer could have bought this same sled since 03 which is lighter and more HP. By the way by running LC heads on my 440 I can run the motor much closer to proper jetting with out worring about burn down, and with proper clutching I have loss no power with LC heads. I also dropped my basegasket and am getting 155psi per cylinder running pump gas.

Like I said I think Yamaha did a good job of responding and offering a more rider forward lighter sled. However, it is still down on HP for my taste right now and still heavier than others. I am actually looking to go to more HP.

 

[Ding]

what was the black thing on the back of the phazer tunnel?

Yes, it was a belt holder with room for a bit more. I peeked inside it and sure enough there was a belt in it . . .

 

[yamahajunkie]

It was in response to this:

"That Phazer was very easy to stand and ride on. Something definately different. Yamaha found the latest niche of snowmobilers."

I don't think Yamah found anything. I just thing the adapted a 4 stroke to a style of sled that has been working great since 03. I've been riding sleds my whole life and have only owned one ski-doo so don't think it is bias. I Actually was very impressed when I saw the phazer but I am looking for more HP for my next sled.

Yamaha has found a niche market. The REV 440 from the Factory is a race sled that requires race gas. To make it trail friendly you must add a proper sized gas tank, Oil injection, and drop the compression/timing to run Pump gas. Which puts that sled in the 80 to 90 HP range. Lets not even get into price comparisons. You can get a Phaser for 5K. On the Race program the REV 440 was 6800.00 bucks this year. That's for a racer. I'm guessing teh general public would be looking at 8K for one of these puppys

You might ask how I know this. I know a couple guys that race Snow Cross. they gave me the pricing!!!

Yes, and the only difference between a 440 and a Consumer REV is Bracing and a bigger motor. So yes any consumer could have bought this same sled since 03 which is lighter and more HP. By the way by running LC heads on my 440 I can run the motor much closer to proper jetting with out worring about burn down, and with proper clutching I have loss no power with LC heads. I also dropped my basegasket and am getting 155psi per cylinder running pump gas.

Like I said I think Yamaha did a good job of responding and offering a more rider forward lighter sled. However, it is still down on HP for my taste right now and still heavier than others. I am actually looking to go to more HP.

then go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you wont like the 4 stroke their too good on gas and dont blow up!!!

 

[Paul_Aris]

It was in response to this:

"That Phazer was very easy to stand and ride on. Something definately different. Yamaha found the latest niche of snowmobilers."

I don't think Yamah found anything. I just thing the adapted a 4 stroke to a style of sled that has been working great since 03. I've been riding sleds my whole life and have only owned one ski-doo so don't think it is bias. I Actually was very impressed when I saw the phazer but I am looking for more HP for my next sled.

Yamaha has found a niche market. The REV 440 from the Factory is a race sled that requires race gas. To make it trail friendly you must add a proper sized gas tank, Oil injection, and drop the compression/timing to run Pump gas. Which puts that sled in the 80 to 90 HP range. Lets not even get into price comparisons. You can get a Phaser for 5K. On the Race program the REV 440 was 6800.00 bucks this year. That's for a racer. I'm guessing teh general public would be looking at 8K for one of these puppys

You might ask how I know this. I know a couple guys that race Snow Cross. they gave me the pricing!!!

Yes, and the only difference between a 440 and a Consumer REV is Bracing and a bigger motor. So yes any consumer could have bought this same sled since 03 which is lighter and more HP. By the way by running LC heads on my 440 I can run the motor much closer to proper jetting with out worring about burn down, and with proper clutching I have loss no power with LC heads. I also dropped my basegasket and am getting 155psi per cylinder running pump gas.

Like I said I think Yamaha did a good job of responding and offering a more rider forward lighter sled. However, it is still down on HP for my taste right now and still heavier than others. I am actually looking to go to more HP.

then go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you wont like the 4 stroke their too good on gas and dont blow up!!!

Don't have get all mad. All I'm saying is its not that revolutionary. Actually the sled is very close and I wanted one until I got realistic about the HP. I keep an open mind about all the manufactures and will switch at the drop of a Hat. I am not loyal to any brand.

As far as your comment that they do not blow up. The only sled I rode with that blew up this year was an RX-1. It threw a rod right through the case. Open your eyes they all can have flaws.

 

[DooFighter]

then go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you wont like the 4 stroke their too good on gas and dont blow up!!!

Man, you guys are pretty thin skinned over here. A little point/counter point never hurt anyone. Chill out and lay off the blue koolaid for a bit. :ORC

 

[MrSled]

I think all of you should relax but you do have to remember this is a Yamaha site not a DOO site...we protect what we love....if you dont like it dont post.

Tom
Owner/Admin

 

[yamahajunkie]

the name of this thread speaks of ty thank you and phaser impression, not about comparing a phaser to a rev. just fyi.

 

[MrSled]

yamahajunkie, thats the exact point I was trying to make!!! Thank You

 

[Paul_Aris]

Alright sorry. Just was trying to open some eyes. Is there any non branded sites I can go to?

Later

 

[PureBlue]

How was the windshield on the GT, compared to the FX. Going to buy a FX. Just wondering if I shood buy a GT windshield.

 

[MrSled]

Hard to day at this point ...it was so warm out when we drove them. I have an FX coming too...should be a fun sled!!!

 

[PureBlue]

Did you feel much wind on the FX.

 

[MrSled]

it didnt feel like much...

 

[PureBlue]

Thanks, going to go snow-check a FX.