300km ride today. Clutching review

[KnappAttack]

I understand what you mean...But that is not what I care about, Im not trying to compare a cat to a yam degrees.'

I simply want to know how to add up the ZERO combo....

If its all the same, then 0/1 would only be 10 degrees, which is LESS then my 9/1(100 degrees).....

Bottom line, what are white spring guys running theres at? 0/1? IF so, that is WAY less then my 9/1 (10 vs 100)

All I know is 9/1 white made MASSIVE heat in secondary, so now im down to 6/3 and its less heat but still much warmer then b/o at same 9/1.

Dan

Think of it like this Dan.

6-2= 80
6-3= 90
9-1=100
0-1= 110
0-2= 120
0-3= 130

Pretty simple right?

 

[74Nitro]

Think of it like this Dan.

6-2= 80
6-3= 90
9-1=100
0-1= 110
0-2= 120
0-3= 130

Pretty simple right?

U sure?
My thinking is
9-1 =100
9-2=110
9-3=120
Then if u ever wanted to go 130 the setting would be 0-1, (after turning 1/3 turn of course)

 

[Mototown]

So if the dalton black /orange had a zero twist of 3-2 start deg (50 deg ) , to get 70 deg twist on it you would set 9-3 . If you wanted 80deg twist u would set 0-1
50+60=110 9-2
50+70 =120 9-3
50+80=130 0-1

But each spring u install has a different deg starting point from pic above ( tangs are in different starting points on 360 deg circle )

 

[KnappAttack]

U sure?
My thinking is
9-1 =100
9-2=110
9-3=120
Then if u ever wanted to go 130 the setting would be 0-1, (after turning 1/3 turn of course)

Line it up and see, 9-1 is one step lower than 0-1, I see where you're coming from too, but I've put it in my scale and it adds up as it should also. I believe 9-2 is same as 0-1 and 9-3 is same as 0-2. I don't see anyone needing to go any higher than 0-3 as that is a lot of wrap. Put a spring in the clutch, use those numbers and you can see what I'm talking about how those couple are the same twist wise.

 

[KnappAttack]

View attachment 146267 So if the dalton black /orange had a zero twist of 3-2 start deg (50 deg ) , to get 70 deg twist on it you would set 9-3 . If you wanted 80deg twist u would set 0-1
50+60=110 9-2
50+70 =120 9-3
50+80=130 0-1

But each spring u install has a different deg starting point from pic above ( tangs are in different starting points on 360 deg circle )

What? No.

Add a zero to the end of the number and add them together. I don't know what you are trying to get at above, but you are correct that with springs with a different tang locations will not be run in the same range as another spring with different tang locations.

3-2=50
3-3=60
6-1=70
6-2=80
6-3=90

Sometimes other numbers on the helix will add up the same degree of twist as well. In which case they are the same twist.

 

[johan]

If it is a ac spring, the holes on the helix is
0=6
3=9
6=0
9=3

so to go 60degree you want to set it at 9 in the helix and 3 in the secondary

6+1 Is 0+1 10degree
6+2 Is 0+2 20degree
6+3 Is 0+3 30degree
9+1 Is 3+1 40degree
9+2 Is 3+2 50degree
9+3 Is 3+3 60degree
0+1 Is 6+1 70degree
0+2 Is 6+2 80degree

This is for ac spring with the tangs on the same side.

 

[ClutchMaster]

LOL

 

[ROCKERDAN]

Think of it like this Dan.

6-2= 80
6-3= 90
9-1=100
0-1= 110
0-2= 120
0-3= 130

Pretty simple right?

Thanks Mike....exactly what I wanted. I know we have spoke about this before but just thought alot of others here did not add them up this way, so good to post here.

So the ZERO combinations, are NOT 10,20 or 30 degree, they are 110,120,130 which is alot diff....they are not added up like every other combo...this is what I mean, the math is done differently with ZERO combos. Its not straightforward.

Dan

 

[Mototown]

What? No.

Add a zero to the end of the number and add them together. I don't know what you are trying to get at above, but you are correct that with springs with a different tang locations will not be run in the same range as another spring with different tang locations.

3-2=50
3-3=60
6-1=70
6-2=80
6-3=90

Sometimes other numbers on the helix will add up the same degree of twist as well. In which case they are the same twist.

So if a spring (aftermarket) set at 3-2 and has no twist at that seting , what setting would set the helix to get 70 deg twist ??? I will double check this when I get home , lol

 

[johan]

9-3

 

[Mototown]

This is a dalton black orange spring , with it just sitting in secondary it lines up good with
3-1 . So that’s 40 start point . So for me to get 70 deg I have set it to 9-2 which is 110 .

When I checked he starting points on helix I seen a even steps from
9-1 100
9-2 110
9-3 120
0-1 130 it was close to 9-3 for starting twist

Can’t see where 9-1 and then 0-1 being 10 deg apart ? It's bigger jump than 10 deg

 

[johan]

View attachment 146306 View attachment 146305 View attachment 146307 This is a dalton black orange spring , with it just sitting in secondary it lines up good with
3-1 . So that’s 40 start point . So for me to get 70 deg I have set it to 9-2 which is 110 .

When I checked he starting points on helix I seen a even steps from
9-1 100
9-2 110
9-3 120
0-1 130 it was close to 9-3 for starting twist

Can’t see where 9-1 and then 0-1 being 10 deg apart ? It's bigger jump than 10 deg

It is always 10 degree when you go from ex 9-1 to 9-2 then 10 more from 9-2 to 9-3.. so 0-1 should be 10 degree more then 9-3.

 

[IH8CROWS]

I just got the cat green spring.
What holes should I be twisting it to start with?

 

[STAIN]

I just got the cat green spring.
What holes should I be twisting it to start with?

What, if any, tune do you have? What helix?

 

[yamaha06]

What’s everyone running there dalton b/o at? I have been running the recommended 6 and 2. Been switching between 240 and 270 tune and clutch temps are very cool. Also running the 1.6” ice cobra track so not gripping like a studded track.