A straight answer

[Alatalo]

I think what people miss as often as it is said is the fact that other makes of machines run on the same snow on the same day have no issues.

Confirmed. My slider wear depends very much on trail conditions, and I have got no issues at all as long as the trail conditions are perfect (fresh powder trails). But as soon as the conditions are anything but perfect (dry snow is enough), I have got much more wear problems than my buddies on BRP sleds. Same snow, same day, same speed, even identical tracks and extroverts...

 

[Tork]

Why should I have to replace wheels, add slip pads, cut more holes and add more clips to a brand new sled?

That is blowing it out of proportion, you dont have to cut holes and add clips, it is either or.

Wheels you will have to replace anyway. And the wheels I use have replacable bearings, so that puts me way ahead of the game there too.
Simple math tells me I have more than broken even, plus I have saved myself a ton of time,

In other words my 'bag of donuts' is half full rather than half empty

 

[Convert]

This thread has been cleaned and is now open for discussion.
Understand everyone here is welcome to state their opinion but only once! Please refrain from getting into heated debates and stick to what this site is here for! Helping each other find solutions to problems not simply bitching about them! We are not Yamaha we are just a bunch of sled heads like you that prefer to ride what we think is the best technology out there, in our opinion it's Yamaha you don't like it go elsewhere.

 

[cannondale27]

I assume the wear area is right in front of the first idlers?Slides wear enough to see light through the hyfax in that area.If so it is helped a bit with lowsnow wheels put as close to it as you can.But when it happened to my Phazer I replaced slides before next ride and added wheels.New slides did exact same thing within 300mi.Hardpacked trail.Decided to keep riding 600mi later they have not wore anymore at all in that area.I took Sleddersteve's suggestion of using a 10mm openend wrench and using it as a guide for replacement.If it slides over the edge easily its time if not ride it but watch it closely.

 

[bigdave]

slide wear

Well I have to say I have put 3 sets on this season in about 2000 miles and this is not right for a new sled (granted I live in michigan, BUT this has been the best snow year in 20 years so snow was not really a problem) I DO HAVE to say I am damn good at changing hyfax on this sled (20 min for both) using a pipe wrench. My wear is were there are no wheels (almost 2 ft bad design!) between rear wheels and the next set of idlers I have no wear in the front were most Yamahas wear so I dont really need the front extra idlers I will how ever be adding the Fix pwersports middle 2 axles I wish YAMAHA would have done this !

BUT other then a few tunings I LOVE THIS SLED !

Dave

 

[Convert]

I don't know much about the Nytro but track tension seem's to be the biggest factor on my RX1's too tight i get excessive wear at the bend. To loose it moves to the back of the rails. If i get it just right i get no excessive wear anyplace and no ratcheting. they're good for 2000+ miles However the track is way looser than the Yamaha spec calls for.
Just my 2 cents.
I also believe snow conditions play a very big part in this.

 

[bagadonitz]

This thread has been cleaned and is now open for discussion.
Understand everyone here is welcome to state their opinion but only once! Please refrain from getting into heated debates and stick to what this site is here for! Helping each other find solutions to problems not simply bitching about them! We are not Yamaha we are just a bunch of sled heads like you that prefer to ride what we think is the best technology out there, in our opinion it's Yamaha you don't like it go elsewhere.

I love how my post was just deleted. This place amazes me. I thought I was making a valid point about how people say do this, do that, etc etc etc when it seems other sled owners have to do nothing but ride.

I found a solution to the problem as well. I replace the damn rail when they wear out. That doesn't mean I have to feel good about it does it?

It seems everyone is entitled to their opinion only once but my once is gone. Fantastic. Great basis for discussion there.

I don't know much about the Nytro but track tension seem's to be the biggest factor on my RX1's too tight i get excessive wear at the bend. To loose it moves to the back of the rails. If i get it just right i get no excessive wear anyplace and no ratcheting. they're good for 2000+ miles However the track is way looser than the Yamaha spec calls for.
Just my 2 cents.
I also believe snow conditions play a very big part in this.

Since my posts were just deleted I'll state it again. I run so loose I ratchet and I still get what I consider is excessive wear when compared to other makes of sleds. 600 miles first set, 500 miles on the second set. Snow conditions certainly do play an obvious role.

No one seems to understand some peoples frustration. A bunch of people report an issue and they get tarred and feathered as being bitchers.

I've been on forums of one variety or another for over ten years. This marks a first for me. Getting posts just wiped out when I'm doing nothing but participating in a discussion about a topic. I'm almost in disbelief that this place is moderated so heavily. I could understand if I was on a rant, swearing, calling everything a piece of crap but all I stated is that it isn't right that you have to add fixes left right and center so that you can get the same slider wear as competitors machines. I expected that stuff to be included for the higher sticker price I paid for this Yamaha yet I have not gotten it on this and other fronts. Of course that just means I have a bad dealer in the eyes of people here and the solution to that is to go to the next one, an extra 250 km on the round trip.

 

[Convert]

This thread has been cleaned and is now open for discussion.
Understand everyone here is welcome to state their opinion but only once! Please refrain from getting into heated debates and stick to what this site is here for! Helping each other find solutions to problems not simply bitching about them! We are not Yamaha we are just a bunch of sled heads like you that prefer to ride what we think is the best technology out there, in our opinion it's Yamaha you don't like it go elsewhere.

I love how my post was just deleted. This place amazes me. I thought I was making a valid point about how people say do this, do that, etc etc etc when it seems other sled owners have to do nothing but ride.

I found a solution to the problem as well. I replace the damn rail when they wear out. That doesn't mean I have to feel good about it does it?

It seems everyone is entitled to their opinion only once but my once is gone. Fantastic. Great basis for discussion there.

I don't know much about the Nytro but track tension seem's to be the biggest factor on my RX1's too tight i get excessive wear at the bend. To loose it moves to the back of the rails. If i get it just right i get no excessive wear anyplace and no ratcheting. they're good for 2000+ miles However the track is way looser than the Yamaha spec calls for.
Just my 2 cents.
I also believe snow conditions play a very big part in this.

Since my posts were just deleted I'll state it again. I run so loose I ratchet and I still get what I consider is excessive wear when compared to other makes of sleds. 600 miles first set, 500 miles on the second set. Snow conditions certainly do play an obvious role.

No one seems to understand some peoples frustration. A bunch of people report an issue and they get tarred and feathered as being bitchers.

I've been on forums of one variety or another for over ten years. This marks a first for me. Getting posts just wiped out when I'm doing nothing but participating in a discussion about a topic. I'm almost in disbelief that this place is moderated so heavily. I could understand if I was on a rant, swearing, calling everything a piece of crap but all I stated is that it isn't right that you have to add fixes left right and center so that you can get the same slider wear as competitors machines. I expected that stuff to be included for the higher sticker price I paid for this Yamaha yet I have not gotten it on this and other fronts. Of course that just means I have a bad dealer in the eyes of people here and the solution to that is to go to the next one, an extra 250 km on the round trip.

If you don't like it find somewhere else to go! Your post was deleted along with a few others to remove MrSled from this discussion he does not deserve the abuse he gets from some of you guys for simply having an opinion of his own. We are here to try to find solutions like I said this is not a Yamaha owned site if you want to complain to Yamaha call the Yamaha customer support line. Here we look for resolutions which hopefully will show Yamaha their downfalls. To constantly complain does nothing but make our jobs as moderators that much more difficult. We will not allow this site to go the same way so many others have gone and thats basically an uncontrolled free for all. Wise up or go elsewhere.

Here's a good example of a guy finding solutions and not just venting.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=57691

 

[gormleyflyer2002]

not a Yamaha owned site........er.....hm..but not completely without influence perhaps.....!

anyway
I think people get frustrated when they discuss what is a very real problem for them on their sled and others feel they have to chim in and remind everyone that their sled is perfect...... you obviously must be doing something very wrong or even have a real problem........if your sled gets a zillion miles per slider.........great, unless you can offer help don't bother posting. This would include Mr Sled and mods also.

I do agree, we should all help each other find fixes and soloutions, some polite and well written threads are getting deleted lately.

maybe the mods could try and keep threads on track better........a little reminder when the temp goes into red zone.

 

[Convert]

not a Yamaha owned site........er.....hm..but not completely without influence perhaps.....!

anyway
I think people get frustrated when they discuss what is a very real problem for them on their sled and others feel they have to chim in and remind everyone that their sled is perfect...... you obviously must be doing something very wrong or even have a real problem........if your sled gets a zillion miles per slider.........great, unless you can offer help don't bother posting. This would include Mr Sled and mods also.

I do agree, we should all help each other find fixes and soloutions, some polite and well written threads are getting deleted lately.

maybe the mods could try and keep threads on track better........a little
reminder when the temp goes into red zone.

Of course Yamaha has some influence here it is a site for Yamaha enthusiasts after all. But they do not control anything that gets written on here.
The half dozen mods we have do everything they can to keep these threads on track it's not as easy as you may think, we all have real jobs just like you and volunteer to do what we can when we can find the time to be on here. With 250 new posts everyday it can be very hard to stay on top of every thread. BTW if you look closely it's not just MrSled and the moderators saying they have no problems with the hifax it's also other members here, are they too supposed to just shutup so only those of you having issues can make it seem much worse than it really is? Nobody here is saying these issues do not exist they are simply saying they do not have the same problems.

 

[Yamahnator]

The problem is you're running your track way too loose. I and others on this site have found that it actually wears less if you keep the track fairly tight.

 

[nytrochic]

I think people are jumping the gun on changing. I have 2400 miles on same set. Early on they were to the wear line and I was going to change them but they havent got worse

 

[Superman]

Seems like my hyfax wear the same as my Attak did. They would wear heavy in the middle and then stablize. I'm still on my originals with over 2100 miles. I might leave them on the beginning of next winter just to see how many miles I can ultimately get out of this set. (I think I could get 3,000+) Seems like my wear line has been a hair over a 1/16" alot of the season. As far as track tension? When I noticed ratcheting I would tighten the track 1 full turn and see if it cured the problem.

 

[KINS]

BTW if you look closely it's not just MrSled and the moderators saying they have no problems with the hifax it's also other members here, are they too supposed to just shutup so only those of you having issues can make it seem much worse than it really is?

To be fair, your statement "those of you having issues can make it seem much worse than it really is" would be your opinion. My personal experience is this is a big issue for me.

I can assure you that the level of frustration for those of us who are trying to address the issue of premature slidder wear is significant and real as well as costly.

On a side note, I would certainly give all the moderators the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their choices on thread deletions. It's a tough job and they have done a great job on this site.

Keep up the good work.

 

[unpride]

The problem is you're running your track way too loose. I and others on this site have found that it actually wears less if you keep the track fairly tight.

You are so right I was going to post the same thing. Another thing make sure the track is centered I think that effects wear quite a bit. I have 2600 on and my third set. First set was wore pretty good so I just figured id replace them. Second the track was tighter on the one side than the other, so one side wore while the other was brand new(over 1500 on that set), third set is wearing perfect with track being set pretty tight. My wear point is at the end of the rails the only place ive seen any wear. I think the rear appears to burn quicker due to the slides being tapered from the factory. It costs 10,000+ for a new sled, 25-35 bucks to fill it up, hyfax are about 25-30 bucks its a pretty cheap fix. You guys cant nit pic at every problem be glad your riding this sled. I havent seen any post on here with anyone has hada problem that leaves them stranded. I dont know how many of you guys have been stranded out in the middle of nowhere by yourselves to walk all night well I have and it sucks! I bought this sled knowing Yammi's reliability and im glad I did. Even though I have issues from the front to the rear of my sled it will still get me home on its own power. Every new sled I have owned since 1999(my first) has left me stranded because the stator went both Doo and Cat. Every single one except this Nytro. That means alot to me!