mdkuni
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Completely agree. I have learned more from this site then I ever imagined. All thanks to you Tom and some very patient members. I do not enjoy sorting through pages of bad comments and whining. I enjoy coming to this site for the reason that probably everyone else comes her: The love of Yamaha and snowmobiling in general! Let's knock off the crap that has come up recently, and start making full use of what this site has to offer.
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Thanks for all the Support
jimmie d
TY 4 Stroke Master
Tom even though I am selling Attak and buying Boomers custom Viper, gives me a woody without Viagra, I will still be here as most informative and best guys around.
Jim
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big-d
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Tom
This is the best site for if you are having trouble with something or to meet different members. I agree with the 3 day band or maybe more. This should aleast make people think before they post. Pimped and I both use this site on a daily base if possible. You and your staff should be thanked for the hard work to keep this site going. We all need to keep a positive attitude when we post.
Again thanks a bunch for the site and looking forward to talking to everyone on this site.
This is the best site for if you are having trouble with something or to meet different members. I agree with the 3 day band or maybe more. This should aleast make people think before they post. Pimped and I both use this site on a daily base if possible. You and your staff should be thanked for the hard work to keep this site going. We all need to keep a positive attitude when we post.
Again thanks a bunch for the site and looking forward to talking to everyone on this site.
BlgsRX-1mtn
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Tom, Steve and other moderators/admin guys; you all have my support. This is definitely the best place to come for 4-stoke info.
I may not know as much as some guys on here but, if I see a new guy/gal asking a specific question that was covered in a Topic I have previous replied to; I will use my search button to search my posts and then reply with a link to that topic. It's a lot less discouraging for a newbie rather than telling him/her to use the search button only to have to sift through several dozen topics that might not answer his/her question. I just find it hard to see any benefit in telling a "newbie" to use the search button if my courtesy of using it can find them the exact info they are searching for. The way I see it; if your'e too lazy to help a new guy find the answer to his his/her question, please be too lazy to even respond just to type "use the search button".
I am also conscience of making it a habit of not arguing with the vast knowledge of the guys on here such as; Jeff Simons, Allen Ulmer, Matt Habadda (sorry If I butchered your last name) Freddie Klies etc...... that tune sleds for a living and have many hours of research and tuning knowledge that I obviously lack since I make my living boiling oil ( Refinery Operations).
Jim
I may not know as much as some guys on here but, if I see a new guy/gal asking a specific question that was covered in a Topic I have previous replied to; I will use my search button to search my posts and then reply with a link to that topic. It's a lot less discouraging for a newbie rather than telling him/her to use the search button only to have to sift through several dozen topics that might not answer his/her question. I just find it hard to see any benefit in telling a "newbie" to use the search button if my courtesy of using it can find them the exact info they are searching for. The way I see it; if your'e too lazy to help a new guy find the answer to his his/her question, please be too lazy to even respond just to type "use the search button".
I am also conscience of making it a habit of not arguing with the vast knowledge of the guys on here such as; Jeff Simons, Allen Ulmer, Matt Habadda (sorry If I butchered your last name) Freddie Klies etc...... that tune sleds for a living and have many hours of research and tuning knowledge that I obviously lack since I make my living boiling oil ( Refinery Operations).
Jim
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Great site, THANKS, Agree with percieved negative change BUT the battle is not lost!
Lets just all be the reasonable, kind and respectful with our responses and redirect posts or posters who are NOT being helpful or informative.
Great site, thanks to all
YAMADOO
Lets just all be the reasonable, kind and respectful with our responses and redirect posts or posters who are NOT being helpful or informative.
Great site, thanks to all
YAMADOO
craze1cars
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I agree with most all that has been said. Respect is contagious, and unfortunately sometimes rare on this site and some others. And I will count myself as an occasional poster who comes and goes, mostly because I get tired of wasting my time reading the frequent and repetitive non-productive bellyaching that seems to go on about 3 or 4 different problems on certain sleds, but I admit NOT because I've ever really personally felt offended or anything like that.
I'm very much in favor of some type of retribution or mild punishment given to someone who may have stepped over the line, whether a 3 day suspension or whatever you think is appropriate. But constant policing and reading of every thread can be an administrative nightmare for administrators. So, I'll offer a suggestion for administrators:
Some other sites I frequent have a button on each thread that says "notify administrator". If ANY user says something that could be taken as offensive, personal attack, against the rules, shouting match between 2 users, hijacking threads, disrespectful comments, whatever....any member can simply click that button, type in their concern confidentially, and this basically flags a particular thread for "administrative review".
Now the administrator(s) can read it, see if they agree, talk amongst themselves privately, and take appropriate action, whether it means removing a comment, editing a thread, sending a PM to the violator with a simple warning, deleting the entire thread, or whatever needs to be done. My strong preference is that any action taken be done quietly and discretely, so as not to publicly humiliate anyone (like dogpile tends to do, IMO). These "notify administrator" buttons are a way for everyone to sort of police themselves, but only the admins make final calls on what is acceptable and what is not and fix the problem as they see fit.
On a related note, I want to explain that I'm not a very big fan of the dogpile solution that seems to be used here every so often, which tends to kill entire threads. I'd much prefer selective editing/warning/punishing the few posts and users that are causing the problem. That would allow useful comments from respectful users in some of the dogpiled threads to remain and be expanded on.
Just an idea, take it if you want it...I do know the "notify admin" button works beautifully on some other forums I frequent and keeps everyone talking nice.
This is a great site overall, nice work and thank you to all who maintain and police it.
I'm very much in favor of some type of retribution or mild punishment given to someone who may have stepped over the line, whether a 3 day suspension or whatever you think is appropriate. But constant policing and reading of every thread can be an administrative nightmare for administrators. So, I'll offer a suggestion for administrators:
Some other sites I frequent have a button on each thread that says "notify administrator". If ANY user says something that could be taken as offensive, personal attack, against the rules, shouting match between 2 users, hijacking threads, disrespectful comments, whatever....any member can simply click that button, type in their concern confidentially, and this basically flags a particular thread for "administrative review".
Now the administrator(s) can read it, see if they agree, talk amongst themselves privately, and take appropriate action, whether it means removing a comment, editing a thread, sending a PM to the violator with a simple warning, deleting the entire thread, or whatever needs to be done. My strong preference is that any action taken be done quietly and discretely, so as not to publicly humiliate anyone (like dogpile tends to do, IMO). These "notify administrator" buttons are a way for everyone to sort of police themselves, but only the admins make final calls on what is acceptable and what is not and fix the problem as they see fit.
On a related note, I want to explain that I'm not a very big fan of the dogpile solution that seems to be used here every so often, which tends to kill entire threads. I'd much prefer selective editing/warning/punishing the few posts and users that are causing the problem. That would allow useful comments from respectful users in some of the dogpiled threads to remain and be expanded on.
Just an idea, take it if you want it...I do know the "notify admin" button works beautifully on some other forums I frequent and keeps everyone talking nice.
This is a great site overall, nice work and thank you to all who maintain and police it.
Swiss Sledder
TY 4 Stroke God
Craze, I can tell you that all us moderators read most of the threads on this site and are fairly active behind the scene. Whilst the current software does not offer a "notify admin" button, there are internal discussions on threads that might get out of control. We are doing more thread splits when two users want to duke it out or hijack a thread, but this is the exception and not the rule.
The Dog Pile section does allow all members to see our actions so they are not hidden and others can learn from what is acceptable without having to always result to heavy handed actions.
Thank you for your feedback.
The Dog Pile section does allow all members to see our actions so they are not hidden and others can learn from what is acceptable without having to always result to heavy handed actions.
Thank you for your feedback.
sledheadgeorge
TY 4 Stroke God
TOM.................YOU DA MAN
craze1cars
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Good to hear, Swiss....'tis all cool.
Thanks for all you guys do!
Thanks for all you guys do!
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