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if it is running more boost then that screams it's obviously to compensate for either a poor tune or poor efficiency in the kit design.
this is what mbracing quoated in the first page .this is why the artic cat is running 28-30 pounds of boost to ajay running 18 pounds on his sled and losing only by a bit.this is the same as the turbo sled here that i raced and beat also .i was at 15 pounds of boost and he was at 18 and up and i still beat him pretty bad .turk can put up the video if he wants to prove that also.it was more than once that i beat this sled also.when i get beat by a turbo doo i will then be impressed ,so far they havent impressed with them yet.it takes more boost on other sleds to beat turbo yamahas as ajay has proven.
this is what mbracing quoated in the first page .this is why the artic cat is running 28-30 pounds of boost to ajay running 18 pounds on his sled and losing only by a bit.this is the same as the turbo sled here that i raced and beat also .i was at 15 pounds of boost and he was at 18 and up and i still beat him pretty bad .turk can put up the video if he wants to prove that also.it was more than once that i beat this sled also.when i get beat by a turbo doo i will then be impressed ,so far they havent impressed with them yet.it takes more boost on other sleds to beat turbo yamahas as ajay has proven.
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Baseline engine on the Z1 is much less than apex... that is what explain the boost differential
A correctly setupped turbo apex at 20-21 psi should equal a 30-32 psi Z1 from what I saw and about the same as 24-25 psi supercharged apex
All of them being correctly setupped.
A correctly setupped turbo apex at 20-21 psi should equal a 30-32 psi Z1 from what I saw and about the same as 24-25 psi supercharged apex
All of them being correctly setupped.
Fern you are right, Just look at all the guys with the stock Z1 Turbos with Hijackers on them, they are killing them at 24-25 lbs boost, meth, big intercoolers etc. only for a boosted yamaha running 13-14 lbs boost to drive by them like nothing.
But in the scheme of things, dollars to donuts the A/C guys are 15k into a brand new set up 250-300 HP stock untouched and motor, and the yamaha guys are really close to 18k for the same thing and have to mod alot.
In the end I am really impressed with what these doos and A/C's are coming with, just my 2 cents form what I have seen, sure makes it fun not racing the same yamahas every weekend now.
But in the scheme of things, dollars to donuts the A/C guys are 15k into a brand new set up 250-300 HP stock untouched and motor, and the yamaha guys are really close to 18k for the same thing and have to mod alot.
In the end I am really impressed with what these doos and A/C's are coming with, just my 2 cents form what I have seen, sure makes it fun not racing the same yamahas every weekend now.
Re: Skidoo/Yamaha
Hey powderlites
Guess what i am running?
Here is a pic of my 03 turbo RX-1. Does the turbo set up look familiar to you???
Do you recognize it cus it,s what i am running!!!!
Unless your running an msd ignition a rear mount is no where near a front mount in a 500-1000' drag races even when it,s running more boost.
Were talking flatland drag racing ; not climbing some hill 1/2 mile long at 8k elevation.
Set em up properly for the day & conditions & your gonna be tuff to beat.
powderlites said:
Hey powderlites
Guess what i am running?
Here is a pic of my 03 turbo RX-1. Does the turbo set up look familiar to you???
Do you recognize it cus it,s what i am running!!!!
Unless your running an msd ignition a rear mount is no where near a front mount in a 500-1000' drag races even when it,s running more boost.
Were talking flatland drag racing ; not climbing some hill 1/2 mile long at 8k elevation.
Set em up properly for the day & conditions & your gonna be tuff to beat.
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aja636 said:
Hmmm, That sounds familiar
I wonder who put that one together.And I hear that was on 14 psi.
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There is a very good running Skidoo over here. he runs 5.3's in 660. That said the two quickest boosted sleds that run in his class 'trail Sled" blow his doors off. they are running 5.0's. the one sled is a Nytro xtx which is the current CODRA king of the trail record holder and the other is Neon Phil. Not one of these Doo's is as fast as the Yamaha's.
In fairness to the Doo they have only been around for a couple years. But that Nytro is flat out sick. It's only been around since last year. 5.0's in one year is sick. this is a full body Nytro XTX so it's giving up a ton weight wise to the doo.
In fairness to the Doo they have only been around for a couple years. But that Nytro is flat out sick. It's only been around since last year. 5.0's in one year is sick. this is a full body Nytro XTX so it's giving up a ton weight wise to the doo.
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Turk Dinasour RX1
Turk Rapid Bike 3 on rear mount Nytro will smoke that little baby 2554 turbo RX1 if you can even run it at 20 lbs boost.
Put a GT2860RS with .64 and you will have about 50 more HP at low boost compared to that turbo.
Things have changed from Intercoolers to headers and EFI with Timming control to make some fast sleds.
Back to Skidoo 14 lbs boost is well over 300 hp 210 ft lbs torque.
RX1 2554 15 lbs boost can't even get to 300 hp and weights 100 lbs more?
Come on Turk whats your beef with Skidoo guys or at least tell me whats up with who's turbo kit on the doo's
The snow must be gone because you have a sour attitude.
Turk Rapid Bike 3 on rear mount Nytro will smoke that little baby 2554 turbo RX1 if you can even run it at 20 lbs boost.
Put a GT2860RS with .64 and you will have about 50 more HP at low boost compared to that turbo.
Things have changed from Intercoolers to headers and EFI with Timming control to make some fast sleds.
Back to Skidoo 14 lbs boost is well over 300 hp 210 ft lbs torque.
RX1 2554 15 lbs boost can't even get to 300 hp and weights 100 lbs more?
Come on Turk whats your beef with Skidoo guys or at least tell me whats up with who's turbo kit on the doo's
The snow must be gone because you have a sour attitude.
Jason; I know that nytro. he is running an impulse set up & it,s wild!
Powderlites; i am running a 2560(in the picture) at 16 pounds boost & it,s a handfull with the traction i get running 1 2" finger track 144 track. Sooo it ain,t no baby 2554 & the 2560 spools a lot faster in a short race then a 2860 which is what it,s built for.
Powderlites; i am running a 2560(in the picture) at 16 pounds boost & it,s a handfull with the traction i get running 1 2" finger track 144 track. Sooo it ain,t no baby 2554 & the 2560 spools a lot faster in a short race then a 2860 which is what it,s built for.
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Spankking Doo's??
Turkey Unless that is a custom machined intake that is a 2554 or 2854
2560 is bolt on intake housing!!
Gee that would be like comparing other skidoo 2554 stage 1 to your RX1 and yes you may beat it.
Dunn's Performance and Longsled have proven that skidoo turbo is fast out east.
Just be happy your old dinasour is able to hang a whooping on some of your buddies and you win a few beeers.
Turkey Unless that is a custom machined intake that is a 2554 or 2854
2560 is bolt on intake housing!!
Gee that would be like comparing other skidoo 2554 stage 1 to your RX1 and yes you may beat it.
Dunn's Performance and Longsled have proven that skidoo turbo is fast out east.
Just be happy your old dinasour is able to hang a whooping on some of your buddies and you win a few beeers.
powderlites
You did the custom machining as this particular turbo was sent to you!!!
Do you want me to post a copy of the reciepts for the work you did on here or you gonna stop now???
I have all the reciepts from your shop doing the work.
Lets see
i paid $1100 for your shop to build me a replacement header for my 1st cpr turbo build .
I paid your shop to build me a divorced double downpipe plus machine the housing so the 2560 would work on my new build.
You treat all your customers like this???
Actually nope...when i get back from my biz trip the reciepts of your shop doing the work will be posted on this thread..or maybe i will start a new one!!!
I said i was at sanctioned drag race & 2 turbo doo,s did poorly.
Your reading a lot into this!!!!
As for beating my buds after a few beers I race ssra sanctioned events with proper techs including weighing your sled at every race sometimes multiple times in a day.
You did the custom machining as this particular turbo was sent to you!!!
Do you want me to post a copy of the reciepts for the work you did on here or you gonna stop now???
I have all the reciepts from your shop doing the work.
Lets see
i paid $1100 for your shop to build me a replacement header for my 1st cpr turbo build .
I paid your shop to build me a divorced double downpipe plus machine the housing so the 2560 would work on my new build.
You treat all your customers like this???
Actually nope...when i get back from my biz trip the reciepts of your shop doing the work will be posted on this thread..or maybe i will start a new one!!!
I said i was at sanctioned drag race & 2 turbo doo,s did poorly.
Your reading a lot into this!!!!
As for beating my buds after a few beers I race ssra sanctioned events with proper techs including weighing your sled at every race sometimes multiple times in a day.
Ted Jannetty said:aja636 said:
Hmmm, That sounds familiar
And I hear that was on 14 psi.
Ted, Kyles ski doo was trading wins with my old mans apex day in and day out, both at 14lbs, Russ Horns running 22-24lbs traded wins with the A/C. I cant wait for kyle to turn the boost up!! His sled is gorgous to boot. and its going to fly, he will need it to keep up with the big green thing I got!!! LOL
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Bashing Skidoo
Turk Picture is of 2554
Never machined 2554 intakes.
Honestly never want to treat you bad and please just don't bash skidoo or anyone like all Skidoo turbo kits are slow and you can beat them all.
Always some one faster and a better tunner.
Hats off to you if you can beat them but they must really be sick from what I have seen with our turbo doo's.
Turk Picture is of 2554
Never machined 2554 intakes.
Honestly never want to treat you bad and please just don't bash skidoo or anyone like all Skidoo turbo kits are slow and you can beat them all.
Always some one faster and a better tunner.
Hats off to you if you can beat them but they must really be sick from what I have seen with our turbo doo's.
Hey Turk dont let him get to you. I know for a fact that if Turk says its so well then its as he says. What powderlites does not realize is that with your superior hands on knowledge of finesse clutch and chassis tuning you can beat sleds with more power on paper than yours. Maybe powderlites should bring his sled to the flat land for a race or two. Powderlites are you going to apologize once your shops reciepts confirming the work done is posted?
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Powderlites, I have a turbo apex (the one you saw un january...) , that is way over 300hp at 15 psi of boost too, just needed proper tuning.
I have dyno to prove it
But your right, stock yamaha has huge weight disavantage over doo.
yam need more investment to weight reduction, but properly setup apex make more power boost for boost than properly setup 1200 turbo... that is what I have seen on dyno at least.
I have dyno to prove it
But your right, stock yamaha has huge weight disavantage over doo.
yam need more investment to weight reduction, but properly setup apex make more power boost for boost than properly setup 1200 turbo... that is what I have seen on dyno at least.
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LOL, well I'm not a huge Skidoo fan but in all fairness the one 1200 there which did have a Powderlites kit ( actually both did), is primarily a trail sled with very LITTLE clutching, that was raced at 10 pounds of boost The driver has not even ever taken part in a drag race before.......lol. He just figured he'd head over to your province to have alittle fun before we head to the mountains next week. He did say traction was limited and since he is a trail rider the sled isnt really setup for drag racing.
I would also say being the Mach Z pilot was the well known Ronnie Shults, that in itself meant the newbies were in trouble, Ronnies one of the best out there.
Turk , your sled looks great! Have you had a chance to romp on it this year at all?
I would also say being the Mach Z pilot was the well known Ronnie Shults, that in itself meant the newbies were in trouble, Ronnies one of the best out there.
Turk , your sled looks great! Have you had a chance to romp on it this year at all?
