MarkRTX
Expert
Was riding today on perfect hard packed conditions when I started to heat up so I shut it down and kicked snow under the sled and put snow on the floorboards like I always have before. Well after about 15 minutes we took off again and about a mile down the trail same thing but this time I could smell oil. So I checked to make sure I didn't hit the front heat exchanger or something and that looked fine so I tear into it and find my airbox full of oil and the filter element is drenched in oil. So I clean it up and now it won't start like the plugs are fouled. So I call this mechanic I know and he tells asked me if I changed the oil or someone else I tell him my dealer and he says it was overfilled with oil at the service and he saw one last year with this same problem. Has anyone else run into this and could it do any damage to the motor. My friend behind me said he saw blue smoke puff out the exhaust a couple times. Any thoughts?? Please help I am on a trip for the next week What should I do? One other thing I have put on almost 1000 miles since my dealer serviced it but today was the first long trip of high speed runs. Thanks Mark 
grader
TY 4 Stroke Master
clean out the airbox and foam, run it up to temperature, shut it off and check oil. the engine ate the extra oil causing the blue smoke, no harm done. if a dealer did this i would be looking for a new dealer.
MarkRTX
Expert
Well the problem is after I cleaned up all the oil now the sled won't start. Its like the plugs are fouled. Would sucking in all that oil foul the plugs??
MarkRTX said:
Only one way to find out, pull the plugs and give them a good cleaning.
Grimm
TY 4 Stroke God
Definitely change the plugs.
What's the oil level at right now?
What's the oil level at right now?
MarkRTX
Expert
The oil level is actually a hair above the full mark when I checked it yesterday. Update I took it to the dealer and they are closed today but a manager was there from sales and said it has to be my fault. He said I must have ridden the sled to hot and it boiled the oil. I say bull I was riding with a Attack and 05 RX1 in the same conditions and neither overheated or had this happen. I have around a thousand miles since the service 450 have been since this past Friday. Yesterday was the first time this season that the conditions have been ideal for high speed runs other than a few plowed roads but yesterday we had done 108 miles in less than 2 hours so we were riding hard. I argued that I recently went to the full syn Yamalube and theres no way I cooked the oil. If so why would the oil tank still be full??? His reply was I checked it when it was hot. Go figure. I will speak to Woody the owner tomorrow and hopefully I get somewhere I am also covered under the YES warranty if there is something wrong I hope
kinger
VIP Member
Not sure what your looking for from the dealer, they overfilled and its still over full, ideally you want to be between E and F, otherwise the engine will suck out the excess oil.
Pull the plugs, clean them off, drain some oil out and see if you can get her started.
What exactly 'heated up'? What light was on that you pulled over for? The oil level has no bearing on the coolant temp. How is your coolant level?
Pull the plugs, clean them off, drain some oil out and see if you can get her started.
What exactly 'heated up'? What light was on that you pulled over for? The oil level has no bearing on the coolant temp. How is your coolant level?
MarkRTX
Expert
With the oil saturating the air filter the motor would not get any clean air wouldn't this heat it up?? Just the normal warning light when you ride in marginal conditions and there was plenty of lube all weekend
kinger
VIP Member
It can only heat with fire, you need to air to make fire if it was in fact plugged it would not run.
So it was a coolant light? There is different lights for oil, coolant, etc.
Oil does burn leaner then gas so it may have been running hotter burning that much oil.
I would yank the plugs (sorry i forget that is quite a process on the apex) and clean/or replace and make sure it starts and runs fine.
What octane gas were you running?
So it was a coolant light? There is different lights for oil, coolant, etc.
Oil does burn leaner then gas so it may have been running hotter burning that much oil.
I would yank the plugs (sorry i forget that is quite a process on the apex) and clean/or replace and make sure it starts and runs fine.
What octane gas were you running?
MarkRTX
Expert
It was the temp warning light the yellow light with temp icon in display. I know the motor needs air but with the very limited air it was getting due to the fliter being saturated and airbox full it was sucking all that oil along with air so it was running extremely rich. All the oil also covered the airbox sensors which probably screwed things up
Len Todd
TY 4 Stroke God
Remove & Clean Plugs. Attempt to start. Warm up. Adjust oil level to correct level. Check for Codes.
To correctly check the oil level = at operating temp with with the cap/stick NOT screwed in.
The dealer will want to know who filled it last, and why you did not know it was overfilled. If the air-box was saturated and the oil level was still high, it was seriously high at the time of the event. Someone put that oil in there or, ... is coolant making it's way into the oil. There are several paths for this. But, you do not want to be there. Too much oil can significantly damage an engine.
How many miles did it have on it when the event occurred since someone added/changed the oil?
If you find that you have spark but it still will not start, it might be time for a compression check?
Battery fully charged? They won't run with a seriously discharged battery.
To correctly check the oil level = at operating temp with with the cap/stick NOT screwed in.
The dealer will want to know who filled it last, and why you did not know it was overfilled. If the air-box was saturated and the oil level was still high, it was seriously high at the time of the event. Someone put that oil in there or, ... is coolant making it's way into the oil. There are several paths for this. But, you do not want to be there. Too much oil can significantly damage an engine.
How many miles did it have on it when the event occurred since someone added/changed the oil?
If you find that you have spark but it still will not start, it might be time for a compression check?
Battery fully charged? They won't run with a seriously discharged battery.
