Ignition module/stutter setup

[Studroes144]

in regards to the recent thread on stutter setup using an ignition module I thought a new thread with pictures would be very helpful. I need to start off by saying that I had a lot of help and guidance with getting everything wired in right so that it functioned properly. I picked a few peoples brains on this and finally got it working right on mine. When I first started out with mine I had a simple button wired into the ignition module, 1 wire in module other was ground. That worked as just a stutter/launch control, I could set target rpm and it would hold it however it only brought my boost to 0, it was not an anti-lag setup and didn't build any boost at all on stutter, worked good but wasn't using it to its full potential. After a lot of phone calls, texts and emails to tuners they got me setup now so that when the button is pressed it switches over to a map 2 setting in the PC software, from there I was able to adjust fuel and timing to start to build boost on stutter. In my first picture you can see the 2 modules, top is pc5, bottom is ignition. There is a small black and small white wire going in to the pc5, those are coming from the ignition module, there is also another black wire from the ignition module that is a ground. On the ignition module you can see 1 black wire going in to the input 2 port, that is coming from my 2 wire button that controls the stutter, the other wire is grounded to the frame. Now with that setup alone you will be able to activate the launch control setting in the ignition module and use it for just that however like I mentioned it will not change fuel or timing settings and will not be able to build any boost on stutter. Now on that black wire going in to the ignition module I have an in-line connector on there with a small lead going to the map port on the pc5, this is what controls the switch between your regular map and your stutter map and will only make that switch once the button is activated. As soon as the button is realeased it switches right back to the regular map. Now in the PC software you need to have your settings right so that it's activating the correct map at the correct time but once you get in there and actually doing it it's easy to figure out which is which. Been awhile since I've even started mine and can't remember how my map settings are but once it's wired in right and you're hooked to the PC software you'll see the map switch over once the button is pushed. I don't want to share any of my actual fuel and timing settings since what works in mine may not work in yours and I don't want to see guys having valvetrain issues from using a map that I have on my sled. Mine is set conservatively at 1 psi on stutter and for an everyday trail/play sled with stock valve train that's where it will stay. Hope this is help and cannondale feel free to use this in the FAQ to help future guys down the road.

 

[cannondale27]

View attachment 129583 View attachment 129584 View attachment 129585 in regards to the recent thread on stutter setup using an ignition module I thought a new thread with pictures would be very helpful. I need to start off by saying that I had a lot of help and guidance with getting everything wired in right so that it functioned properly. I picked a few peoples brains on this and finally got it working right on mine. When I first started out with mine I had a simple button wired into the ignition module, 1 wire in module other was ground. That worked as just a stutter/launch control, I could set target rpm and it would hold it however it only brought my boost to 0, it was not an anti-lag setup and didn't build any boost at all on stutter, worked good but wasn't using it to its full potential. After a lot of phone calls, texts and emails to tuners they got me setup now so that when the button is pressed it switches over to a map 2 setting in the PC software, from there I was able to adjust fuel and timing to start to build boost on stutter. In my first picture you can see the 2 modules, top is pc5, bottom is ignition. There is a small black and small white wire going in to the pc5, those are coming from the ignition module, there is also another black wire from the ignition module that is a ground. On the ignition module you can see 1 black wire going in to the input 2 port, that is coming from my 2 wire button that controls the stutter, the other wire is grounded to the frame. Now with that setup alone you will be able to activate the launch control setting in the ignition module and use it for just that however like I mentioned it will not change fuel or timing settings and will not be able to build any boost on stutter. Now on that black wire going in to the ignition module I have an in-line connector on there with a small lead going to the map port on the pc5, this is what controls the switch between your regular map and your stutter map and will only make that switch once the button is activated. As soon as the button is realeased it switches right back to the regular map. Now in the PC software you need to have your settings right so that it's activating the correct map at the correct time but once you get in there and actually doing it it's easy to figure out which is which. Been awhile since I've even started mine and can't remember how my map settings are but once it's wired in right and you're hooked to the PC software you'll see the map switch over once the button is pushed. I don't want to share any of my actual fuel and timing settings since what works in mine may not work in yours and I don't want to see guys having valvetrain issues from using a map that I have on my sled. Mine is set conservatively at 1 psi on stutter and for an everyday trail/play sled with stock valve train that's where it will stay. Hope this is help and cannondale feel free to use this in the FAQ to help future guys down the road.

I will put this in FAQ for sure. Thank you. I wonder if a guy could still utilize the second map after launch by hitting the button again? I have never hit the stutter button after launch? Lot of possibilities for PCV for sure.

 

[Studroes144]

I will put this in FAQ for sure. Thank you. I wonder if a guy could still utilize the second map after launch by hitting the button again? I have never hit the stutter button after launch? Lot of possibilities for PCV for sure.

Funny you say that cuz I was thinking the same thing as I ate lunch, I've never hit my button after launch either. Thinking back now, 4-5 years ago, I remember piloting one of the test sleds at the time that d&d was tuning on. They had 2 identical 1100 turbos. With same flash setups. What they had was a basic 2 way switch, when switch was on position 1 it ran 19 psi and you also had to stutter option that ran off the standard button. When switch was on position 2 it ran just the same as position 1 did at 19 psi however it had no stutter option. When you pressed the "stutter" button while switch was on position 2 it would max the turbo and run 24 psi. They've since made an all in 1 package on that but was very neat to actually see first hand what differences it made while riding the sled. Position 1 with stutter always came out in front but didn't take long for that extra 5 psi to go by, I can remember doing a roll on and running side by side and then pushing the button on and off a couple times, hold the button a couple seconds gain a sled length, a couple more seconds gain some more. Lots of possibilities!