Phazer 900?!

[fraolib]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

 

[driftrider]

My dad and I always talked about Yamaha making a 750cc Phazer.
A 100hp Phazer would be so sweet. Not a 120hp Phazer cause we already have the Nytro but 100hp in the Phazer would be very ideal. With any added weight from making the Phazer engine bigger, they could shave 10lbs by making a much lighter exhaust keeping the 750cc Phazer right around the 500lbs that the Phazer is now.

One day Yamaha will know whats up and we just might see it

i think a 750 cc phazer would be more viable - the bore would have to be about 1 inch bigger, and then you would have to beef up the rod, oh and the crank, and....

wait a minute - i don't think i'd want a $10k phazer - never mind

wait a miniute- I wish i didnt have to pay $11k for a phazer when 4 hours south i could have one for $8k

 

[blueironranger]

punched in the Nytro Bore and stroke and came up with a 699cc twin that would probably make the 100hp mark with a bit of tweaking and no gear reduction. The Nytro bore is only 5mm larger and the stroke less than 10mm more which would means they could make an engine physically only 1cm wider and 1cm taller and gain 200cc displacement. Could be a drop in, in the current chassis. Pretty easy to build with the same pistons, rods, rings, bearings, ect. Basically wack a cylinder off the Nytro and toss it in.

 

[TRUTH]

"A supercharger with 2 or 3 lbs of boost would yield about 100hp as well. This should be put into production on the 500cc engine."
This is not correct. The highest boost a current Phazer engine can run while running pump fuel is 5-7 PSI, which nets about 95 HP. Factory supercharging a Phazer is very highly unlikely.

 

[zackn291]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

9000+km and never broke anything on the sled

 

[backcountrymafia]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

said well, yamaha should concentrate on making the small things work on this sled. the engine size works well for the chassis , i think this should be a factory turbo sled anyways, 9:1 comp from the factory with boost if they mass produced a turbo phazer i dont think it would ad more than a 1000 to the overall price, if this thing had big twin it i think there would be to much vibration to make a consumer happy just my opinion

 

[Ruckus]

"A supercharger with 2 or 3 lbs of boost would yield about 100hp as well. This should be put into production on the 500cc engine."
This is not correct. The highest boost a current Phazer engine can run while running pump fuel is 5-7 PSI, which nets about 95 HP. Factory supercharging a Phazer is very highly unlikely.

From Mountain Performance website:
Kits can be run at 5-7lbs of boost (recommend 5psi at sea level). Each pound of boost is equal to approximately a 10HP increase, so when decreasing boost to run pump gas, you can apply that information to determine HP. Stage 1 Nytro produces 220HP at 11PSI. The Phazer kit ships at 140HP at 11pounds of boost.

 

[phaze5]

just for you guys i will tell them i will be the guinea pig, its a tough job breaking sleds , and few can handle the stress therfore i will for you guys , let the beatings commence lol

 

[TRUTH]

Ruckus,
I own an MPI Boosted Phazer. I have talked to them probably more times than they want apply that math backwards. About 140 HP at 11 PSI minus 6 PSI to run pump fuel, 10 HP per PSI equals.. Not worth the investment. Give MPI a call or email and ask them how much power a pump fuel boost set up makes on a Phazer. I'll save you the time, they will say "it aint worth it!" The stock motor is pushed too far, it really is very impressive what they have gotten out of this motor stock!

 

[blueironranger]

4-5psi would provide around 100hp, that's it. No one is going to build a kit much cheaper so you are over 200$ per hp, that's too much. If someone came out with a cheap 3-4psi supercharger kit that works with the factory fuel system and no aftercooler for around 2000$ they might have something. Maybe a yamicharger for the phazer. I'd personally buy one for that price as long as it was around 95-100 hp and still ran on 91 octane.

 

[kingston phazer]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

im glad im not the only who thinks they need suspension work done i break stuff alot im glad im not the only one.

 

[fraolib]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

9000+km and never broke anything on the sled

if you've never broken anything you must not be riding that hard or u just dont know that anything is broke. and not just broke. alot of stuff ends up bent and twisted that you wont notice unless u really look at it

 

[zackn291]

i think yamaha should make the phazer so its more durrable. rear suspension better so it doesnt break all the time. and everything that has to do with steering on it. a brand new phazer sitting on the showroom floor has more slop in the steering than any snowmobile ive ever seen new or 10 years old. and also the bushings and ball joints do that instead of giving it a bigger motor

9000+km and never broke anything on the sled

if you've never broken anything you must not be riding that hard or u just dont know that anything is broke. and not just broke. alot of stuff ends up bent and twisted that you wont notice unless u really look at it

Oh its rode hard, trust me. Suspension is out of it every season and its mint.

dont be jealous

 

[fraolib]

aha jealous yea deff not. i find it very hard to believe that u ride it hard and nothing is broke and i think that there are many others here that will agree with me. one guy on here just put his 3rd w-arm in.

 

[80h4thephaze]

For the factory supercharger comments, Yamaha mentioned in this video that when they increase the power of a sled they won't boost it or anything because they dont want to disrupt their #1 reliability rep. They increase power in other ways. Ive beat every 500 ive ever raced, not sure why we should complain about power...

http://www.yournextsled.com/story.php?lang=en