Solution to Hyfax wear??

[RUDEDOG]

I know there have been a few posts on hyfax wear on the nytros and I have read them but there didn't seem to be a good solution to the answer on the wear. Now those posts were old and people had only a few miles on their sled. Is there a solution to slowing down the quick wear?

I only have 363 miles on mine and noticed that the wear is up to the wear line almost all the way through the slides. I will admit when I put the miles on they were hard packed & icey trails but I did ocassionally find powder to run the track through.

Any help would be appreciative as I am trying to learn how these sleds operate. Thanks

 

[Goddo]

I have 4 suggestions.

1. Move front limiter strap up one hole
2. Purchase marginal wear kit and install close to the rail bend
3. Ski scratchers (I haven't done this yet, but it will be my next step)

4. Get good at changing them.

 

[lucky_7]

Just be cautious that moving the limiter strap up one hole will also change the suspension set-up.

 

[Goddo]

Just be cautious that moving the limiter strap up one hole will also change the suspension set-up.

What lucky means is,

It will marginally affect deep snow performance. It essentially makes the front end a little heavier by having a smaller track footprint.

 

[sheetwright]

Just be cautious that moving the limiter strap up one hole will also change the suspension set-up.

Ya! The guy I talked to this weekend at the show said I might want to lower the strap a hole for a better ride. Will this screw the Hyfax up more?

 

[tkuss]

Conditions is really such a huge roll in hyfax wear. Try breaking your new hyfax in(5-10 hot and cold cycles). Also don't change them unless you absolutely need to. With my apex they wear 2/3's through fast and then pretty much stop wearing. Maybe try drilling many tiny holes in the hyfax and inject some grease or wax into them, I was reading a thread on another site a while back and they had good results with it. If the grease falls out over time(like I think it would) then the holes could hold snow and Ice as well. Don't know if it works but it is an idea. Also if you think heat is killing your hyfax and not the gravely conditions. Try hyperfax they melt at twice the temp regular hyfax do. But dirt and gravel will wear them just as fast as regular hyfax if the conditions are bad. That is what I hear anyway. Hyperfax also cost 4 times as much as regular hyfax

 

[RUDEDOG]

Thanks for the number 4! That is my project this weekend. I have never done it before but I feel like a professional after reading this forum. Well see how that goes.

Thanks for the response

 

[TurboJamie]

Guys who ride areas with lots of snow and no chance of getting stones or gravel in the sliders will drill holes in the slider about 3/16" deep which grab snow and help lubricate to keep them from wearing as fast. I myself didn't solve the slider problem from our 3 nytros they all burned em up in 3-400 miles each time. All machines had marginal wheel kit, riding on groomed trails in northern ontario where we had approx 6' of snow last winter.

I for some reason or another found the red sliders to last the longest on my sled perhapse the dye makes them harder???

 

[Goddo]

Just be cautious that moving the limiter strap up one hole will also change the suspension set-up.

Ya! The guy I talked to this weekend at the show said I might want to lower the strap a hole for a better ride. Will this screw the Hyfax up more?

I thought stock skid position was all the way out on both front and back. At least that's what my service manual says.

Moving up one hole in front will pull the front of the skid up slightly reducing the amount of pressure on the front of the hyfax. The rear wear won't be improved by this. Also, by pulling the skid up, your track footprint becomes marginally smaller making the front end of your sled seem and little heavier and affecting off-trail performance.

Given that I'm a mainly off-trail rider, I probably won't keep mine up for long.

 

[lucky_7]

Only 3-400 miles??? WOW! Mine are toast now, but they made it 2200 miles with no problems.

 

[TurboJamie]

Only 3-400 miles??? WOW! Mine are toast now, but they made it 2200 miles with no problems.

We spent all winter working with our dealer trying to figure that one out too, apex in same conditions went all winter on the same set, went everywhere the nytro's did weird eh.

 

[MUDDER]

I have my stap pulled up 2 holes and the hyfax wear quickly to just about the line then it seemed to quit wearing. I have 2889km on it and they still aren't toast. I rode in all sorts of conditions. I am just changing them now so hopefully I get another winter out of a set. I have not put marginal snow wheels on yet. I do have the Ulmer transfer blocks I don't know if that did anything

 

[LJ 452]

Only 3-400 miles??? WOW! Mine are toast now, but they made it 2200 miles with no problems.

We spent all winter working with our dealer trying to figure that one out too, apex in same conditions went all winter on the same set, went everywhere the nytro's did weird eh.

I would say, we put 1200-1400 miles on my wifes Phazer MTX with the 2" track. Even went up for the April ride, now that was rough. They were worn down about 1-2mm before the line. at the end of the season they were right at the line. Not bad. It been said before and I really do think that it's true, if you just let them break in (wear 70-80%) then watch them they seem to stop. It's just scary leaving for a trip with so little hifax wear left. When my Apex was new it went through hifax qiuckly as well, in playing with the limiters and everything else I was able to get several thousand miles out of a set. We'll see what happens this year with the S.E. Definently going to be trying some different things, hy hope is to not effect ride/steering quality at the same time. If you raise the front and rear it should maintain the same ski pressure, and from what I'm reading raising the rear one hole is recomended anyway.

 

[RUDEDOG]

Goddo,

I noticed what you said about going up one hole to lift the front end up reducing friction. I did notice on mine that the front of the slides doesn't seem to be worn at all, but as you get around on the curve of the slide it is worn consistently to the wear line throughout.

I am 6'-5" 290lbs, does this matter other than I'm abnormally large?

 

[theCATman]

Yes weight will have a factor. One of my riding buddies is a big guy (about your size) and he burned thru a pair of slides on a Polaris 500 in 1200-1300 miles. I put on the same miles on my Nytro & hardly wore my slides at all. I'm 6'3" and weight 190.

In fact, one day we went riding, his wife & he doubled up and he was getting some sticktion & burnt plastic smell from the slides. This was in ideal conditions also (fresh 2" on top of groomed trail, maybe 25-30* out) So, putting an extra 130 lbs on top of his 270, really taxed the rear suspension.

I also have two extra wheel kits on my Nytro too. They have helped ALOT.