Mooseman
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Regardless of what was done with the gun, he's still an idiot and asked for it. From http://www.glacier-national-park-travel ... ttack.html
My nickname notwithstanding (given to me by an Australian), I don't really know all that much about moose but I would have known not to yell at it or move up to it, that's for sure.
How to Survive a Moose Attack
Remember, a moose charges to ward off potential threats. Wild moose are aggressive, but by assuring the bull or cow that you are not a threat, you can survive an aggressive moose encounter.
Signs of an aggressive moose include:
Walking in your direction
Stomping its feet
Peeling its ears back
Grunting
Throwing its head back and forth
These are all signs of an aggressive, wild moose. If you are hiking through moose habitat and encounter a moose behaving in this manner, it perceives you as a threat and you must be prepared for an attack.
Should you encounter an aggressive, wild moose, here is how to prevent and survive an attack:
Back away with your palms facing the moose
Speak softly and reassuringly, like you would to a little child
If the moose charges, get behind a large tree or rock in order to separate your body from the moose. Most moose charges, like grizzly bear charges, are bluffs
If the moose attacks you, feign death by curling up in a little ball. Protect your head and neck with your arms. If you are wearing a backpack, your pack will protect your back
My nickname notwithstanding (given to me by an Australian), I don't really know all that much about moose but I would have known not to yell at it or move up to it, that's for sure.
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Really and clearly uncalled for. There was plenty of opportunity to retreat not advance. Hopefully the moose was dispatched and not left to suffer and the meat harvested. People have to remember the animals have more right to be there than we do. I have had many experiences with moose while hunting and sledding and have accidently run between 2 standing on the trail because I didn't see them until the last second. The funniest part was when the wife caught up and saw one about 30 ft from me and then finally realized there was another about 10 ft from her. No sudden moves or alarming sounds and we where off as fast as they where.
fxnytroxtx
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Chit I better start being nice to other sledders out there and not pass them on the right anymore
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Not condoning this guys actions in any way as it seems like this guy provoked the moose into charging. However, just wanted to point out that it doesn't look like he is actually on a trail, more like a hillside crossing that happens to be fairly well traveled. So he likely was in the backcountry. Where there is moose, there are usually bears. So carrying might actually be a good idea for personal safety. However provoking an attack is really quite irresponsible and really leaves a bad taste for me. This is likely the natural habitat for the moose. So basically this guy rode into the moose's yard making all kinds of noise and then killed it when the moose attempted to chase him off his "property". This guy is just lucky (or maybe not) that this was a small moose. A full size moose would have likely killed him on the first charge.
Basically when we come upon moose, we try to stop and let them go wherever they want to. As long as you stop far enough back, they usually leave you alone.
We have to remember that we are the guests in the backcountry, the wildlife lives there so it really is their home.
Basically when we come upon moose, we try to stop and let them go wherever they want to. As long as you stop far enough back, they usually leave you alone.
We have to remember that we are the guests in the backcountry, the wildlife lives there so it really is their home.
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Moose don't hibernate like bears..........
kyleg
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The guys a idiot he provoked the moose which lead to the attack. If he came up on it without know it was there and it attacked that's a different story. I came up on a cow a two calves two days a go with two other riders I saw them a few hundred feet away we stopped shut off our sleds and waited 30 seconds and they left the trail no guns needed. As for carrying a gun on trail I'm mixed I wish I could carry one in Canada legally we have wolves and wild boar in the area would be nice for protection if the sled broke down. Luckily I drive a yamaha so I don't need the gun
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NOS-PRO said:Definitely would have backed up and tried to boon dock my way to the open area that was ahead of him. Eliminate the problem all together.
Warning shots would have scared it off also I think.
But, I am no expert..... just my .02
Two points I disagree with in your comments.......not everyone is as adept at "boondocking" as you are, a lot of people are pretty much trails only.........and the second is in the course of the education requirements for a carry permit one point is stressed is that there is no such things as "warning shots"......if you feel a compelling need to pull your weapon you better be prepared to use. Pulling a firearm for the mere purposes of intimidation is a felony itself called brandishing.
That said, I am in no way condoning what this moron did......merely pointing out that a person is supposed to have a clear and compelling need to pull their weapon and if they do, they are supposed to be prepared to use it.
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buddah said:NOS-PRO said:Definitely would have backed up and tried to boon dock my way to the open area that was ahead of him. Eliminate the problem all together.
Warning shots would have scared it off also I think.
But, I am no expert..... just my .02
Two points I disagree with in your comments.......not everyone is as adept at "boondocking" as you are, a lot of people are pretty much trails only.........and the second is in the course of the education requirements for a carry permit one point is stressed is that there is no such things as "warning shots"......if you feel a compelling need to pull your weapon you better be prepared to use. Pulling a firearm for the mere purposes of intimidation is a felony itself called brandishing.
That said, I am in no way condoning what this moron did......merely pointing out that a person is supposed to have a clear and compelling need to pull their weapon and if they do, they are supposed to be prepared to use it.
nuff said
frozesolid
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dab102999 said:I WILL NOT EVER TELL YOU you have to carry....you will never tell me I CANT...
I second this.
Ding
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canoehead said:Moose don't hibernate like bears..........
But sometime bears forget that they are supposed to be hibernating
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This is the difference between Canadians and Americans..........Handgun ownership. I like thinking that the guy coming up next to me doesnt have a gun in his coat. Americans have the right to bare arms..I like the right to live and not worry about a wildcard having a loaded gun on him..I hope buddy was charged with poaching...
This is the difference between Canadians and Americans..........Handgun ownership. I like thinking that the guy coming up next to me doesnt have a gun in his coat. Americans have the right to bare arms..I like the right to live and not worry about a wildcard having a loaded gun on him..I hope buddy was charged with poaching...
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I wonder if everyone would have a different opinion if say the guy was a trapper and pulled out a rifle or shotgun from a scabbard and dispatched the animal? I'm not condoning this individuals actions, but it's very easy for us to condemn or criticize what happened when we weren't there.
pat the rat
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This video nearly made me sick,i am an avid moose hunter,i have so much respect for that animal,i have had numerous encounters with moose ,some very close,never did i see signs of aggression,you respect them,they will respect you,same with all other wild animals,wolves,bears,you name it,and carrying a gun on a snowmobile for protection is kinda weird if you ask me,i spend alot of time in the northern ontario forest without a gun,i feel much safer than being in public in a large city,sorry for the rant,this video should be removed
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pat the rat said:.......,you respect them,they will respect you,same with all other wild animals,wolves,bears,you name it,and carrying a gun on a snowmobile for protection is kinda weird if you ask me.............
Your Canadian wolves must be a hell of a lot tamer than our ghetto variety down here......personally, I'd rather not be a snack............
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all you guys saying how wrong the guy is for shooting animal but if you was in his shoes you would do the same for sure, behind the screen all you got sympathy for animal that you be shi**ing your pants on the trails
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