twomorestrokes
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SumpBuster said:That pic looks strange..heat exchanger looks ok...I would've thought it would buckle around the upper rear idler/shock mount arm if anywhere. In any case, this is sad news for me, as it means I am not riding hard enough anymore!!! Guess I'll have to pick it up a little. Firecat bud thinks his shocks are shot....guess he better replace them all to keep up with the Vec..lol.
LOL! I ride with a Firecat and a Pro X with Walker Evans reservoir shocks. The shocks on both sleds fade and go dead in the rough stuff after awhile where I have no issues with the Ohlins.
The point where it bent is not a main stress point, but Yamaha made a big mistake by cutting the releif for the exhanger pipe pass through right at the radiused corner of the tunnel/ running board. The area loses all of it's support with the corner bend cut out like that. If it's gonna bend, that is the weakest area.
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All things considered, that's not too bad an issue..it certainly shouldn't slow you down..just looks bad..lol.
Gotta love the mileage when pounding them...on good trails, I have a hard time getting less than 19 mpg, as long as the kittydoo clan can keep up...thier slow pace makes me burn more fuel idling, looking back...
Gotta love the mileage when pounding them...on good trails, I have a hard time getting less than 19 mpg, as long as the kittydoo clan can keep up...thier slow pace makes me burn more fuel idling, looking back...
dusty
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I'm officially going to burst the bubble here. I have an '06 Vector GT which has the factory braces. They did not solve the bending issue, just pushed the bend point further forward. I now have a nasty wrinkle just behind the mounting plate for the upper rear idler axle. Shows up really well with the gloss black finish. Spent about two hours trying to get it all smoothed out but couldn't get rid of all of it. Guess you can't expect them to look new forever. I just add an aluminum brace from the rear most bumper mounting bolt to the unused hole in the back flange of the idler axle brace. We'll see if that keeps the damage from getting worse.
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twomorestrokes
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That's probably why the 07 Apex GT has 4 braces total going up to the suspension bracket.
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No bubble popped here, I ride as hard as I'm able, and no problems yet...in fact, both my RX's (03's) have perfect tunnels, and the one I sold to a guy beats the snot out of it...yeah, we break the normal stuff like the w arms, and an idler once in a while, but no buckled tunnels. Then again, I made shims (aka NASCAR style wedges) for the progressive springs to prevent bottoming..the other one has an Ohlins in with a stiff spring...only bottoms hard on a big g out.
06vectorgt
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low slung said:The real cause,REAR SNOW flap,too long and you will know why when you put the sled in reverse on deep or uneven snow. :ORC
You got it low slung!
I have witnessed this when sitting on machine while backing it off a tilt bed, the flap is run over by the track and REALLY yanks the machine's tunnel down hard. I don't see it as a result of hard riding, its bent in the wrong direction for that. My .02
twomorestrokes
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06vectorgt said:low slung said:The real cause,REAR SNOW flap,too long and you will know why when you put the sled in reverse on deep or uneven snow. :ORC
You got it low slung!
I have witnessed this when sitting on machine while backing it off a tilt bed, the flap is run over by the track and REALLY yanks the machine's tunnel down hard. I don't see it as a result of hard riding, its bent in the wrong direction for that. My .02
You're forgetting the fact that some of us with bent tunnels have short flaps making it impossible to run them over in reverse. I ditched that long flap back in 2005 for the same reason.
Reverse
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You didn't happen to trailer your machine with the back tied down and hit any major dips or bumps???? I've seen 3 guys, one with a Vector and 2 Doos who told me this is what causedt their issues...
twomorestrokes
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Reverse said:You didn't happen to trailer your machine with the back tied down and hit any major dips or bumps???? I've seen 3 guys, one with a Vector and 2 Doos who told me this is what causedt their issues...
It was trailered. It always is as I am not near trails. It was tied down but not very tight and no bumps out of the ordinary were noticed. While I was fastening it down I thought of garserio's post where he thought that may have caused his damage so I just barely took the slack out of the strap.
That was the biggest bump I have ever hit at the highest speed on that sledding trip. Kinda scary for a few seconds. Another thought... before loading it onto the trailer after the ride, the skid was quite filled with ice and snow so I picked the back up by the bumper and banged it down a few times to knock some of it out. Could have happened then too.
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My 05 RX1 with the big boy spring has a wrinkle on one side of the tunnel. I have backed over the flap before, but I checked each time it happened and no crinkle. I came off a lake after a day of lake riding in Canada at the end of the season last year and noticed the wrinkle as I was loading the sled.... I know I didn't back over my flap.
Yamaha told me that this was caused by backing over the flap, but said they would cover straightening the tunnel and adding their support bracket. As I am happy they are fixing it, I didn't challenge the cause. I am sure in my case it was not due to backing over the flap. I was aware of the issue an kept a good watch on it.
Yamaha told me that this was caused by backing over the flap, but said they would cover straightening the tunnel and adding their support bracket. As I am happy they are fixing it, I didn't challenge the cause. I am sure in my case it was not due to backing over the flap. I was aware of the issue an kept a good watch on it.
twomorestrokes
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I'm pretty certain that my damage happened while riding also. Definitely wasn't the flap thing...
Vmax540
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Could it happen turning around on a trail and backing against a high snow bank even with the shorter flap ? ! ?
twomorestrokes
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Vmax540 said:Could it happen turning around on a trail and backing against a high snow bank even with the shorter flap ? ! ?
I don't see how as the flap could not end up underneath the track.
Vmax540
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twomorestrokes said:Vmax540 said:Could it happen turning around on a trail and backing against a high snow bank even with the shorter flap ? ! ?
I don't see how as the flap could not end up underneath the track.
The flap would still pinch between the track and snow bank with the track rotating pulling down on rear of tunnel ?
Tfin
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Vmax540 said:twomorestrokes said:Vmax540 said:Could it happen turning around on a trail and backing against a high snow bank even with the shorter flap ? ! ?
I don't see how as the flap could not end up underneath the track.
The flap would still pinch between the track and snow bank with the track rotating pulling down on rear of tunnel ?
I actually had this happen to mine...but luckily it didnt bend the tunnel. I've cut my stock flap short but the studs still grabbed it and tore a couple holes in it when I backed it off my truck and into a snowbank
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