freelheeler
Pro
Axle is my guess....
Almost700
Extreme
Chain is my guess. If it were axle, you would hear noises and the brake rotor would not turn when you give it gas. Sounds like you are transfering power through the jack shaft, just not getting past that to the drive axle which=chain.
aceltx09
Expert
Yea there really is not much else it could be,if both clutches and brake rotor are turning,something is broken in the chaincase. If it was me I would drag it pull it push it to get it out of the woods. Someone might have a real nice sled if they stimble across it.
When you give it gas evrerything spins except drive shaft? Did you check drive shaft to see if its cracked?
When you give it gas evrerything spins except drive shaft? Did you check drive shaft to see if its cracked?
yamahahaapex
TY 4 Stroke Master
wow how can my browser look like that lol
ATTAKED1
Newbie
I have broken an axle and it made no sounds what so ever! Sheared it off where it exits the chain case and goes through the bulkhead to the drivers! Was on ice at speed, and then rev-limiter...WTF!! On SH*T, no brakes!!! After coasting to a stop it reved up without make any odd noise, just no foward movement!
Never know!!
Never know!!
YamerHammer
Expert
It is going to be one or the other.....drive axle will be my guess.....if it was the chain 90% of the time it will brake the case and you will see oil.
Frozenstiff
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Would your buddies not give you a ride out ???
Riding alone is never a good thing. Like others have said, either chain or front axle.
Riding alone is never a good thing. Like others have said, either chain or front axle.
Super Sled
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#1APEXRIDER said:
Yep. True, true. I ride alone a lot also and it is never good. It's Murphy's Law -- bad shiite always happens when you are alone riding, like getting hopelessly stuck. or, in your case, a break down.
The best bet is to ride with buddies. But with hectic schedules sometimes you just have to go a lone. But bring a cell phone and be prepared to deal with this scenario.
Hey bud, please let us know what was the break down cause and how the rescue operation goes. We wish you the best.
Hey TY, is there any members who live out that way and canmaybe lend this guy a hand?
freelheeler
Pro
if you're not smart be strong...
i ride alone a lot and acknowledge there's risk! generally i'm accessing bc skiing so i have skis strapped onto the sled and yes i've had to ski out and go back in after other sleds avoiding major consequences. yesterday was definitely a different story, the rx1 has been a bomber sled and i've built up a level of confidence in it so i didn't have skis along i was out strictly for a ride and to check out snow conditions which meant nothing aggressive just staying on the fs road beds for the most part and not pushing it, fortunetly (most of the time) the area doesn't get much use and the road riding is powder surfing.
when the go button quit working i knew i was in for a long day and maybe night, i hate to say survival mode kicked in but i started walking with the goal of gauging my progress in 1 hour, than 2 hours and so on. i carry enough survival gear in my backpack to spend a night out, plus i had a cell phone so help was only a call away. there was something about making the call for help that really motivated me to 'walk/ slog' out. once home i checked my route on google earth and with the 'short cuts' it was only about 4-4.5 miles which was a mix of waist deep snow to marginally supported snowmobile track to packed sled trail.
i justify it as a pay to play situation, sure i wish i had attached the skis but in some strange way i was due. you play long enough in the mountains and sooner or later #*$&@ happens, and you better be prepared. i still don't know how to anticipate a broken chain or axle, although i might consider packing along a backup chain but that's pushing it. this isn't about riding alone, we all assume risk in the mountains be it injury or avy situations, i tend to be ultra conservative when i'm out by myself, thus is why the sled is on the road and not another 5 miles deeper in the back country.
i ride alone a lot and acknowledge there's risk! generally i'm accessing bc skiing so i have skis strapped onto the sled and yes i've had to ski out and go back in after other sleds avoiding major consequences. yesterday was definitely a different story, the rx1 has been a bomber sled and i've built up a level of confidence in it so i didn't have skis along i was out strictly for a ride and to check out snow conditions which meant nothing aggressive just staying on the fs road beds for the most part and not pushing it, fortunetly (most of the time) the area doesn't get much use and the road riding is powder surfing.
when the go button quit working i knew i was in for a long day and maybe night, i hate to say survival mode kicked in but i started walking with the goal of gauging my progress in 1 hour, than 2 hours and so on. i carry enough survival gear in my backpack to spend a night out, plus i had a cell phone so help was only a call away. there was something about making the call for help that really motivated me to 'walk/ slog' out. once home i checked my route on google earth and with the 'short cuts' it was only about 4-4.5 miles which was a mix of waist deep snow to marginally supported snowmobile track to packed sled trail.
i justify it as a pay to play situation, sure i wish i had attached the skis but in some strange way i was due. you play long enough in the mountains and sooner or later #*$&@ happens, and you better be prepared. i still don't know how to anticipate a broken chain or axle, although i might consider packing along a backup chain but that's pushing it. this isn't about riding alone, we all assume risk in the mountains be it injury or avy situations, i tend to be ultra conservative when i'm out by myself, thus is why the sled is on the road and not another 5 miles deeper in the back country.
Rick27
Newbie
I ride about 3,500 miles alone a year and I don't go boondocking by myself. Sticking to the trails I know someone will come along eventually. Broke a drive shaft last year and got towed to a trailhead by a groomer. I really think this is what happened to you, broken drive shaft. If it's a drive shaft the sled will tow just fine because the track will not be locked up.
kinger
VIP Member
Swapping a chain would be no easy task in waist deep snow, you need special socket to get the large nut loose from the top gear and other tools to be able to get in there. Unless you could pull a link of the chain loose and connect it that would be better. Still need some tools to get the case off (torx head, c clip tool, etc)
I would for sure bring a carpet so the track doesn't spin, if the chain is broke then you could bunch up the chain in there and wreck the $400 case.
If the driveshaft is broke it would only be supported on one side and could bend the bulkhead on the clutch side. A carpet would keep everything as is till you can get it home and see what the went.
I would for sure bring a carpet so the track doesn't spin, if the chain is broke then you could bunch up the chain in there and wreck the $400 case.
If the driveshaft is broke it would only be supported on one side and could bend the bulkhead on the clutch side. A carpet would keep everything as is till you can get it home and see what the went.
aceltx09
Expert
Like KINGER said you really dont want to swap a chain on the side of a trail,let alone in POWDER, to many small parts that can get dropped in the snow, you will be digging for hours to find with no luck. I havn't heard of many chains breaking and that would not be on the top of my list of spare parts to carry.
I rode alone once on trail, what a blast!!!!!! Very dangerous, but nobody to wait for or slow you down and want to take smoke breaks. Just going hard for hours.
I rode alone once on trail, what a blast!!!!!! Very dangerous, but nobody to wait for or slow you down and want to take smoke breaks. Just going hard for hours.
freelheeler
Pro
sled recon count down!!
plan is to head into the hills this afternoon for a recon, what tools / materials would you bring?? i don't mean to brag or qualify myself as a top notch mechanic but i've been thru the chain case countless times and have a pretty good comfort level with the assembly (did i mention it's reverse, even more pieces and parts) and all the little parts. that said i'm prone to having small spring like item fly across the garage only to be found months later!
Here's whats packed necessary tools to pull apart the chain case, ropes, winch, com along, new top gear, (chain is in the mail), oil, plus a sheet to collect parts and maybe a plastic sled to put under the track
phase I
visual inspection of the sled, again did i miss something obvious?
Phase II axle
does the track spin free?
is the drive shaft tweak'd or broke?
Phase III
does the chain tensioner tighten or screw in completely?
Is there oil in the snow or belly of the sled?
Phase IIII
If the chain is broken i'll pull apart the chain case and replace the chain which is most likely bound up at the bottom of the case locking the track up. therefore most likely leaving me with a nice hole in the case that i'll deal with in the garage.
the teeth on my top gear (18t) could be sheared, again pull apart the chain case and replace top gear
broken drive shaft? pack a trail into the sled and prep it to be towed out either tonight or another day?
if i don't get it out tonight that's okay, my main goal is to drive away at least knowing what's broke and what i need to order? plus is this a field fix or not.
plan is to head into the hills this afternoon for a recon, what tools / materials would you bring?? i don't mean to brag or qualify myself as a top notch mechanic but i've been thru the chain case countless times and have a pretty good comfort level with the assembly (did i mention it's reverse, even more pieces and parts) and all the little parts. that said i'm prone to having small spring like item fly across the garage only to be found months later!
Here's whats packed necessary tools to pull apart the chain case, ropes, winch, com along, new top gear, (chain is in the mail), oil, plus a sheet to collect parts and maybe a plastic sled to put under the track
phase I
visual inspection of the sled, again did i miss something obvious?
Phase II axle
does the track spin free?
is the drive shaft tweak'd or broke?
Phase III
does the chain tensioner tighten or screw in completely?
Is there oil in the snow or belly of the sled?
Phase IIII
If the chain is broken i'll pull apart the chain case and replace the chain which is most likely bound up at the bottom of the case locking the track up. therefore most likely leaving me with a nice hole in the case that i'll deal with in the garage.
the teeth on my top gear (18t) could be sheared, again pull apart the chain case and replace top gear
broken drive shaft? pack a trail into the sled and prep it to be towed out either tonight or another day?
if i don't get it out tonight that's okay, my main goal is to drive away at least knowing what's broke and what i need to order? plus is this a field fix or not.
kinger
VIP Member
How are you getting out there? Could you bring a pice of plywood or anything to pull the sled up on to? I would jack it up and see if I could rotate the track. Check the driveshaft right behind the chaincase and see if its broke there.
I have been in a chaincase many times and I still get a little confused sometimes, but I do have a full proof method now and that is taking large zip ties or wires and has the parts come off I slide them onto that. I have 3 'sets' one for external for the brake, 1 for top gear (pretty easy) and 1 for bottom gear. Worked great and I no longer scratch my head on what goes where.
Good luck!
I have been in a chaincase many times and I still get a little confused sometimes, but I do have a full proof method now and that is taking large zip ties or wires and has the parts come off I slide them onto that. I have 3 'sets' one for external for the brake, 1 for top gear (pretty easy) and 1 for bottom gear. Worked great and I no longer scratch my head on what goes where.
Good luck!
