What do you suggest Yamaha should change for 2011?

[hossZ28]

A 6 month season lol If you guys are set on keeping the 4 cylinder then cram it into the phazer and install a tether strap and grow a set

 

[rxrider]

Move up north to Ellesmere or Baffin Island, or to where I live, and you will have your 6 months of winter. I couldn't get myself to move elsewhere (south) for any amount of money LOL

 

[hossZ28]

How about a heads up display ont the windshield for the tach and speedo and a altimeter the one one the new Doos is kinda neat

 

[sandy8657]

The Big Bang motor

Any Yamaha enthusiast who follows both the motorcycles and snowmobiles, know that Yamaha changed their 2008 R-1 motorcycle to a "Big Bang" motor for the 2009 model year. It made motorcycle of the year. It's a 4 cylinder with the power and torque that feels like a big twin.
Just wondering if they'll do the same with their 4 cylinder snowmobiles currently in the Apex...Give it the "Big Bang" firing order and make that 4 cylinder Apex feel like a big twin.
I know Yamaha is due for an all new Apex.. model year 2011? or an early mid season introduction?

 

[cannondale27]

Looks like all the Yamaha motors will be 4valve motors real soon.2010YZF450 is 4valves and reverse cylinder head FI.

 

[Alatalo]

Re: The Big Bang motor

Just wondering if they'll do the same with their 4 cylinder snowmobiles currently in the Apex...Give it the "Big Bang" firing order and make that 4 cylinder Apex feel like a big twin.

I am no longer sure I would want that. The crossplane crankshaft concept requires quite some addition of material to crankshaft as well as crankcases. Just had a 2009 YZF-R1 on the scale for a comparison against previous models. Damn, it is heavy...!

 

[SledFreak]

In the snowmobile world, the 4 cylinder is just to damn heavy, they need to pull the power out of the tripple to keep it light. They can get the power out of it.

 

[whitedust1]

Keep & rename Apex to Vector 125 & 150 with all the current models then go white sheet for a new Turbo 150 all new chassis with reduced weight at the top of the line. Go back to cool names like attak, warrior & drop LTX this & that.

 

[rxrider]

You will allways get more power when you add cylinders and up the rpms. Anyone remember the Honda 8 cylinder Grand Prix bike, they banned the 8 cyl cause it made too much power, it's was a long time ago tho.

 

[kinger]

The apex engine weighs around 140lbs vs a comprable 2 stroke that weighs 60lbs. so your stuck with a 80lbs difference if they could get that out of the chassis and be a legitimate 50lbs heavier (wet) then a XP I think they would win over the weight watcher consumer as most consumers WANT that engine. There is a lot of things they could do to cut weight yet and I personally think they just incrementally make changes so as to not do everything in one model year and have nothing left for each new generation after that.

 

[Grimm]

I'd like to see better options for a buyer when snow checking a sled. A choice of ski, track, windshield, shocks, etc.

We're paying pretty much the same price as a car now, so we should have better options.

 

[apltx08]

I'd like to see better options for a buyer when snow checking a sled. A choice of ski, track, windshield, shocks, etc.

We're paying pretty much the same price as a car now, so we should have better options.

x2, but I was told 'cuz of YAM being built in JAPAN it would take to long to get our sleds...all others are in North America which would be dooable.

 

[bdm]

The apex engine weighs around 140lbs vs a comprable 2 stroke that weighs 60lbs. so your stuck with a 80lbs difference if they could get that out of the chassis and be a legitimate 50lbs heavier (wet) then a XP I think they would win over the weight watcher consumer as most consumers WANT that engine. There is a lot of things they could do to cut weight yet and I personally think they just incrementally make changes so as to not do everything in one model year and have nothing left for each new generation after that.

I have seen a few posts around here over the years the put those numbers considerably closer together.

 

[snowbeast]

Re: The Big Bang motor

Any Yamaha enthusiast who follows both the motorcycles and snowmobiles, know that Yamaha changed their 2008 R-1 motorcycle to a "Big Bang" motor for the 2009 model year. It made motorcycle of the year. It's a 4 cylinder with the power and torque that feels like a big twin.
Just wondering if they'll do the same with their 4 cylinder snowmobiles currently in the Apex...Give it the "Big Bang" firing order and make that 4 cylinder Apex feel like a big twin.
I know Yamaha is due for an all new Apex.. model year 2011? or an early mid season introduction?

OK who really wants a motor to feel like a big twin?? I think most of us bought these 4 bangers to get away from the big twin feel,at least i did,heck each time i get sucked into the marketing hype of how sweet these big twin motors go,i go out and get one,only to be completely dissapointed in the end,and run back to a good tripple or quad motor to get that sweet running and sounding motor back.

 

[srxpert]

more power

I was told the other day that yamaha has a higher horsepower engine already built and sitting on the shelves waiting. They did not release it this year because of the economy. I was told it produces around 180 hp. He would not tell me about the chassis that it was going into because he wasnt sure on that. This a very reliable source and I trust his every word. When I went to yamaha training back in 2001 they told me then that they
had a 4 stroke motor already built for a sled but was waiting to release it because the general public was not ready for it. It is supose to be realeased this year. Lets keep our fingers crossed.