ROCKERDAN
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2 per bar with this much power is really shy.....unless you really ride like an old timer, and use shortest studs. But most guys want to run MIN of 3 per bar, or 2/4/2/4 which is rather popular pattern.So is 96 up the middle of a 137 ok for a winder?
Dan
Sledroll
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144 , 4-2-4 pattern ,doubles singles doubles , 1.500 stud boy , stock Yamaha protectors.
Not a scratch on the tunnel .
The question is not , if it spins , only how little/ much will it spin .
Not a scratch on the tunnel .
The question is not , if it spins , only how little/ much will it spin .
**sj**
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I agree with the grandpa statement... or no dead digs and radar running is about the only time to use 3 per bar... remember less studs puts more load and greater chance for failure...4 per bar if you ever line them up... also... woodys has the highest shoulder... where the backer bottoms out... this can mean the greatest deflection .. I. E. Layover... and chance for tear out... plastic backers also can deflect easier... and as far as studs in the outside rows... decades of stuff inn this way and never a tear out... and that's where the traction is..
ROCKERDAN
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Totally disagree...woodys design has been around longer then most all others, and GDs never had an issue for me. The capture is specific, and with their cupped head design the shoulder is what is needed to not cut into rubber...I see time and time studs without shoulders, tightened down, and the the cookie cutter affect begins. Why I only run woodys GDs for entire life except once with Grands.I agree with the grandpa statement... or no dead digs and radar running is about the only time to use 3 per bar... remember less studs puts more load and greater chance for failure...4 per bar if you ever line them up... also... woodys has the highest shoulder... where the backer bottoms out... this can mean the greatest deflection .. I. E. Layover... and chance for tear out... plastic backers also can deflect easier... and as far as studs in the outside rows... decades of stuff inn this way and never a tear out... and that's where the traction is..
Dan
**sj**
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The gold digger is an excellent stud... but like I said... tall shoulder has caused tear outs on many tracks in the past..i believe max torque is 15 lbs... for us drag riders this can be a problem coupled with insufficient studs... not a problem for touring and radar runs as much... there are tricks ever with woodys to prevent deflection...
Again... if you line them up ever... with 210 and maybe plus hp....dont under stud or run a right grouping or you'll be sorry
Again... if you line them up ever... with 210 and maybe plus hp....dont under stud or run a right grouping or you'll be sorry
ROCKERDAN
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Never had a GD pull out or tear out....Think ive studded every sled Ive had with them since about 1989 or so, not even sure when studs came out? But awhile now.
But I have seen just about ever other brand pull out, tear thru..you name it. And most are due to not having a shoulder, and allowing for too much tightening on rubber to allow for cutting into rubber over time.
There is a reason GDs have been around so long, and most popular for so long...I just like to stick with what works, and most guys I trust use.
Drag racing is not trail riding...and requires alot different setup then most everyone on this site is talking about. Lake race type studs do not last a week in my region of bedrock. They are dull w/ snapped off tips in a few days unfortunately...
But I have seen just about ever other brand pull out, tear thru..you name it. And most are due to not having a shoulder, and allowing for too much tightening on rubber to allow for cutting into rubber over time.
There is a reason GDs have been around so long, and most popular for so long...I just like to stick with what works, and most guys I trust use.
Drag racing is not trail riding...and requires alot different setup then most everyone on this site is talking about. Lake race type studs do not last a week in my region of bedrock. They are dull w/ snapped off tips in a few days unfortunately...
**sj**
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We trail ride hard... and line them up here and there... lake play days etc... not full blown drag sleds... but many of my friends in New York do exactly the same... probably more aggressive that's all..
That said... as a rugged trail stud goes... snow stud wart hogs are the king of durability from my experience.
That said... as a rugged trail stud goes... snow stud wart hogs are the king of durability from my experience.
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Never had problem with Gold Diggers. Ran 1.325's in a 4-3-3 pattern repeated 16 times for a total of 160. Double backers for the rows with 4 only, singles for the rest. Good compromise for top end vs 192 (less rotating mass) and better traction and drag race than 144.