Srxspec said:Had a rough first weekend out performance wise, but had fun so that's all that matters! A stock suspension + 15" wide track = alot of relearning on rear skid setup! LOL! I have alot of respect for the aftermarket skids & narrow track setup like I ran last year now, there is a definite advantage with them! I was running 1.7 60' times and 11.4's on the box stock Apex. Hopefully I'll get a chance to get out on Saturday again and try some new rear skid settings!
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Allan, what happened to that nice Proline skid you picked up last fall?
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The Proline is stuffed into the 2006 Apex turbo sled that I'm still working on! This is just a stock 2007 Apex RTX!
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Ran the SRX again Sunday 4/29/2007
temp was mid 80's, and another huge headwind, with 50% humidty.
Lane 1, test run, reaction .046
1.435 60ft - 6.278 1/8 @ 106.259 - 10.147 1/4 @ 121.856
Lane 1, test run, reaction .007
1.388 60ft - 6.289 1/8 @ 105.132 - 10.176 1/4 @ 121.788
Lane 2, test run with Attak, reaction .037
1.491 60ft - 6.452 1/8 @ 105.976 - 10.294 1/4 @ 124.490
Round 1, lane 1, dial-in 10.22, reaction .033
1.423 60ft - 6.348 1/8 @ 104.634 - 10.277 1/4 @ 119.469
Won 1st round by a .010 win margin
Round 2, lane 1, dial-in 10.28, reaction .055
1.409 60ft - 6.363 1/8 @ 103.500 - 10.352 1/4 @ 117.055
Won 2nd round by a .015 win margin
Round 3, lane 1, dial-in 10.33, reaction .046
1.475 60ft - 7.239 1/8 @ 93.125 - 11.659 1/4 @ 98.316
Lost 3rd round to a fouled spark plug... darn 2 strokes
This still keeps me 1st in points, I believe, and will try and stretch the points lead this weekend.
temp was mid 80's, and another huge headwind, with 50% humidty.
Lane 1, test run, reaction .046
1.435 60ft - 6.278 1/8 @ 106.259 - 10.147 1/4 @ 121.856
Lane 1, test run, reaction .007
1.388 60ft - 6.289 1/8 @ 105.132 - 10.176 1/4 @ 121.788
Lane 2, test run with Attak, reaction .037
1.491 60ft - 6.452 1/8 @ 105.976 - 10.294 1/4 @ 124.490
Round 1, lane 1, dial-in 10.22, reaction .033
1.423 60ft - 6.348 1/8 @ 104.634 - 10.277 1/4 @ 119.469
Won 1st round by a .010 win margin
Round 2, lane 1, dial-in 10.28, reaction .055
1.409 60ft - 6.363 1/8 @ 103.500 - 10.352 1/4 @ 117.055
Won 2nd round by a .015 win margin
Round 3, lane 1, dial-in 10.33, reaction .046
1.475 60ft - 7.239 1/8 @ 93.125 - 11.659 1/4 @ 98.316
Lost 3rd round to a fouled spark plug... darn 2 strokes
This still keeps me 1st in points, I believe, and will try and stretch the points lead this weekend.
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Looking back at my notes from last season it looks like (with the same 60' time) the narrow track is worth a fair amount of ET and top end!
Last season with Wahl Skid & 10.5 x 121 track:
60: 1.764
660 ET: 7.253
660 MPH: 96.930
1/4 ET:11.400
1/4 MPH: 116.050
This season with Pro-Active Skid (stock) & 15 x 121 track:
60: 1.754
660 ET: 7.264
660 MPH: 96.244
1/4 ET: 11.482
1/4 MPH: 113.491
Track conditions were identical from that pass a year ago to the pass this year so conditions didn't have any effect on the difference seen between narrow track and stock track width!
Also just picked up a Proline skid, narrow track, and skis off of Ebay for the stock Apex! It looks like I'll run the stock skid & wide track until the end of May and then switch it over!
Last season with Wahl Skid & 10.5 x 121 track:
60: 1.764
660 ET: 7.253
660 MPH: 96.930
1/4 ET:11.400
1/4 MPH: 116.050
This season with Pro-Active Skid (stock) & 15 x 121 track:
60: 1.754
660 ET: 7.264
660 MPH: 96.244
1/4 ET: 11.482
1/4 MPH: 113.491
Track conditions were identical from that pass a year ago to the pass this year so conditions didn't have any effect on the difference seen between narrow track and stock track width!
Also just picked up a Proline skid, narrow track, and skis off of Ebay for the stock Apex! It looks like I'll run the stock skid & wide track until the end of May and then switch it over!
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Allen, Nice setup!!! Too rich for my blood at the moment. Thanks again to you and your dad for those wheels and blocks. I have them all installed and will probably be running my first asphalt race this Sunday!!!!!
Sled is done, cooling cart done, and hopefully I'm ready to go. I'll be running stock (No N2O) this weekend. Unfortunately, I'm clutched for the N2O and don't feel much like changing it right now....especially after the 30 hours I put in my sled to get it ready.
So, stock this weekend to get the kinks out...and 50hp or 90hp shot next time....woooo hooo.
Wish me luck
Sled is done, cooling cart done, and hopefully I'm ready to go. I'll be running stock (No N2O) this weekend. Unfortunately, I'm clutched for the N2O and don't feel much like changing it right now....especially after the 30 hours I put in my sled to get it ready.
So, stock this weekend to get the kinks out...and 50hp or 90hp shot next time....woooo hooo.
Wish me luck
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Beautiful day at ESTA today. Temps were probably in the low 70s with sun all day. Everyone was surprised how good the traction was, espically this early in the season. Yesterday I finished getting my sled back together and threw some clutching at it. I was very pleased with the results. Also, stoutner came out to the track and made his first pass on his Apex. One run and I knew he was hooked. I'll let him fill in the details on how well he did.
Trials 1, first run since re-assembling the sled with a new (to me) motor. Revs hit 10k then 9500 the rest of the way.
60: 1.50
660 ET: 6.71
660 MPH: 99.53
1/4 ET: 10.86
1/4 MPH: 114.99
Trials 2, changed the secondary spring. Not sure where the revs were as I hit the wrong button on my VDO.
60: 1.49
660 ET: 6.64
660 MPH: 101.31
1/4 ET: 10.68
1/4 MPH: 119.00
I was quite impressed with this run. My best previous (all motor) was a 10.61. If I can get my 60 time down to where it should be (1.3s) I'm possibly looking at 10.4s in the 1/4.
Elims 1...dial 10.68. Replay showed revs hit 11k then settled at 10100.
60: 1.49
660 ET: 6.63
660 MPH: 101.09
1/4 ET: 10.73
1/4 MPH: 116.93
Lost by .05. Everything else looked good, but I think I sat up too much towards the end.
Clutching is spot on, so now it's time for skid adjustments. Gotta get the spinning stopped at the line.
Trials 1, first run since re-assembling the sled with a new (to me) motor. Revs hit 10k then 9500 the rest of the way.
60: 1.50
660 ET: 6.71
660 MPH: 99.53
1/4 ET: 10.86
1/4 MPH: 114.99
Trials 2, changed the secondary spring. Not sure where the revs were as I hit the wrong button on my VDO.
60: 1.49
660 ET: 6.64
660 MPH: 101.31
1/4 ET: 10.68
1/4 MPH: 119.00
I was quite impressed with this run. My best previous (all motor) was a 10.61. If I can get my 60 time down to where it should be (1.3s) I'm possibly looking at 10.4s in the 1/4.
Elims 1...dial 10.68. Replay showed revs hit 11k then settled at 10100.
60: 1.49
660 ET: 6.63
660 MPH: 101.09
1/4 ET: 10.73
1/4 MPH: 116.93
Lost by .05. Everything else looked good, but I think I sat up too much towards the end.
Clutching is spot on, so now it's time for skid adjustments. Gotta get the spinning stopped at the line.
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Corey that rx1 runs great and this is only the first race.
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pro116 said:Corey that rx1 runs great and this is only the first race.
Hopefully next week I go some rounds. A good test and tune day would be helpful too.
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Friday night test and tune went real well, but traction was poor. Managed to run a couple 9's on both sleds, and do some fuel changes on the SRX.
Saturday, saw I was points leader by a couple, and went 3 rounds. I will post times tonight.
Friday night test and tune went real well, but traction was poor. Managed to run a couple 9's on both sleds, and do some fuel changes on the SRX.
Saturday, saw I was points leader by a couple, and went 3 rounds. I will post times tonight.
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First race and...yes, I am hooked !
Yep, just as Corey said - I am hooked. What a learning experience.
Time trial #1 and first run ever on asphalt:
Reaction: 1.1420
60 ft: 1.7440
1/8th 7.4251 @ 91.05mph
1/4 11.9341 @ 106.56
Time trail #2 took some air out of front shocks due to wheelie in first run. Also leaned forward instead of sitting back.
Reaction: .8470
60 ft: 1.7249
1/8th 7.3308 @ 92.83mph
1/4 11.7537 @ 108.47
Note: I was running against Corey and he left me like I was sleeping. I almost was laughing to myself as I was watching him blow me away on the start.
First official race ever #1 Set dial in at 11.74
Reaction: .7779
60 ft: 1.6721
1/8th 7.2401 @ 92.92mph
1/4 11.7541 @ 102.23
Note: I was lucky because I was running a first time racer as well. His dial in was 2/100th less than me so it was a pretty even start.
I left him at the line...his reaction was .99 - I did let off at the end and good thing I did because I was only .0141 over my dial in. I did beat him to the finish by about a sled but he broke out by .0990
Second race dial in still at 11.74
Reaction: .7630
60 ft: 1.687
1/8th 7.3011 @ 92.37mph
1/4 11.7620 @ 107.64
I had a bit of bad luck on this race. Unfortunately, I was racing a guy with a lot more experience. My reaction time was still weak but his was *** .5031 *** His index was 10.10 and I knew he'd be closing hard. I was about 100 feet from the finish line and still couldn't see him coming. Then, he came flying be me like I was standing still. He caught me at what seemed like 50 feet from the finish and coasted to a win by .0339 ( like a half sled ??? )
If anyone wonders why my et's were so low it was because I was clutched for 85hp of n2o but wasn't running N2O. I was running completely stock. In fact, I found out that I was really clutched for about 125 hp of N2O. My max rpm's were 9500.
Positives: My et's were super consistant. My reaction time got better every run. My sled didn't put me into a wall. And, I had a complete blast!
Lastly, I want to thank all of you guys for your advise. More importantly, I want to thank Allen and Gary Ulmer for loaning me 3 sets of wheels and blocks. And thanks to Corey for showing me the ropes and loaning me all kinds of tools, and generally putting up with all of my questions throughout the day.
P.S. Why didn't anyone tell me that you have to hit the throtte before the green light comes on?
Yep, just as Corey said - I am hooked. What a learning experience.
Time trial #1 and first run ever on asphalt:
Reaction: 1.1420
60 ft: 1.7440
1/8th 7.4251 @ 91.05mph
1/4 11.9341 @ 106.56
Time trail #2 took some air out of front shocks due to wheelie in first run. Also leaned forward instead of sitting back.
Reaction: .8470
60 ft: 1.7249
1/8th 7.3308 @ 92.83mph
1/4 11.7537 @ 108.47
Note: I was running against Corey and he left me like I was sleeping. I almost was laughing to myself as I was watching him blow me away on the start.
First official race ever #1 Set dial in at 11.74
Reaction: .7779
60 ft: 1.6721
1/8th 7.2401 @ 92.92mph
1/4 11.7541 @ 102.23
Note: I was lucky because I was running a first time racer as well. His dial in was 2/100th less than me so it was a pretty even start.
I left him at the line...his reaction was .99 - I did let off at the end and good thing I did because I was only .0141 over my dial in. I did beat him to the finish by about a sled but he broke out by .0990
Second race dial in still at 11.74
Reaction: .7630
60 ft: 1.687
1/8th 7.3011 @ 92.37mph
1/4 11.7620 @ 107.64
I had a bit of bad luck on this race. Unfortunately, I was racing a guy with a lot more experience. My reaction time was still weak but his was *** .5031 *** His index was 10.10 and I knew he'd be closing hard. I was about 100 feet from the finish line and still couldn't see him coming. Then, he came flying be me like I was standing still. He caught me at what seemed like 50 feet from the finish and coasted to a win by .0339 ( like a half sled ??? )
If anyone wonders why my et's were so low it was because I was clutched for 85hp of n2o but wasn't running N2O. I was running completely stock. In fact, I found out that I was really clutched for about 125 hp of N2O. My max rpm's were 9500.
Positives: My et's were super consistant. My reaction time got better every run. My sled didn't put me into a wall. And, I had a complete blast!
Lastly, I want to thank all of you guys for your advise. More importantly, I want to thank Allen and Gary Ulmer for loaning me 3 sets of wheels and blocks. And thanks to Corey for showing me the ropes and loaning me all kinds of tools, and generally putting up with all of my questions throughout the day.
P.S. Why didn't anyone tell me that you have to hit the throtte before the green light comes on?
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Guys, Great Job...
Hope to be out this weekend at NYIRP
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Hope to be out this weekend at NYIRP
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Corey, nice numbers! It must not of taken you long to figure out your clutching! LOL!
Wayne, great job on getting out and just having some fun. Yea, being the fastest is fun, but good close racing is great too! That's the best part about bracket racing, as long as your sled is consistant and you can cut a light it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are!
We got rained out this weekend. We had about 5" of rain in a 6 hour span (most of it in two 30-40 minute spurts of rain) with some wind damage, hail, etc. I spent most of Friday night resetting my suspension and also swapping out the front end shocks as well. I also put on my Hot Tach Pro with engine RPM & jackshaft RPM so I can see exactly what's going on! I had a slight problem with the installation and called Exhaust Gas Technologies on Saturday morning and surprisingly enough they answered the phone and walked me through my setup problem!
Just a pic of my rear skid!
Wayne, great job on getting out and just having some fun. Yea, being the fastest is fun, but good close racing is great too! That's the best part about bracket racing, as long as your sled is consistant and you can cut a light it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are!
We got rained out this weekend. We had about 5" of rain in a 6 hour span (most of it in two 30-40 minute spurts of rain) with some wind damage, hail, etc. I spent most of Friday night resetting my suspension and also swapping out the front end shocks as well. I also put on my Hot Tach Pro with engine RPM & jackshaft RPM so I can see exactly what's going on! I had a slight problem with the installation and called Exhaust Gas Technologies on Saturday morning and surprisingly enough they answered the phone and walked me through my setup problem!
Just a pic of my rear skid!
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Are you ready for some asphalt racing? Well, get your sled ready and prepped for some Friday night fun this summer!
Located at the Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove, Wis., the track opens at 5:30 p.m., time trials start 6 p.m. and eliminations begin around 7:30 p.m. Admission is $12 for spectators and is $55 to enter.
So come enjoy bracket style snowmobile drag racing on asphalt. Payouts for winner, runner and semi finalists.
Dates include the following:
-June 8th
-June 29th
-July 20th
-August 10th
-August 24th
-September 14th
-October 19th
The track is located 10 miles north of the Ill./Wis. state line (Exit #337) HWY KR (County Line Rd.), then head west for 4 miles.
Call the track hotline, 262-878-3783, for more info or visit www.greatlakesdragaway.com.
Located at the Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove, Wis., the track opens at 5:30 p.m., time trials start 6 p.m. and eliminations begin around 7:30 p.m. Admission is $12 for spectators and is $55 to enter.
So come enjoy bracket style snowmobile drag racing on asphalt. Payouts for winner, runner and semi finalists.
Dates include the following:
-June 8th
-June 29th
-July 20th
-August 10th
-August 24th
-September 14th
-October 19th
The track is located 10 miles north of the Ill./Wis. state line (Exit #337) HWY KR (County Line Rd.), then head west for 4 miles.
Call the track hotline, 262-878-3783, for more info or visit www.greatlakesdragaway.com.
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Buster696 said:Guys, Great Job...
Hope to be out this weekend at NYIRP
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Buster,
I hope to meet you sometime this summer. I will be racing at NYIRP sometimes. I live half way between NYIRP and ESTA. I work in Victor. I may leave work for a Wednesday or Friday test and tune one of these days.
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Sorry for the wait, but had some bad things happen this week....
Friday 5/4/07
Wisconsin International Raceway - Time runs
SRX
1st 68° 40% humidity, lane 2, reaction .080
1.447 60ft - 6.259 1/8 @ 110.665mph - 9.998 1/4 @ 126.399mph
2nd, lane 1, reaction .001
1.492 60ft - 6.347 1/8 @ 107.146mph - 10.159 1/4 @ 124.657mph
3rd, lane 1, reaction .034
1.583 60ft - 6.502 1/8 @ 107.122mph - 10.308 1/4 @ 125.169mph
** traction got worse as the night went on**
Apex
1st, lane 1, reaction .172
1.485 60ft - 6.383 1/8 @ 107.507mph - 10.001 1/4 @ 127.407mph
2nd, lane 1, reaction .205
1.504 60ft - 6.451 1/8 @ 107.660mph - 10.189 1/4 @ 128.242mph
3rd, lane 1, reaction .615 (reaction was slow because I was street racing a bike, and let him have the jump)
1.479 60ft - 6.371 1/8 @ 107.392mph - 9.994 1/4 @ 127.545mph
Saturday 5/5/07 Summit Super Series Drags - WIR
SRX with about the same temp and humidity
1st time run, lane 2, reaction -.014
1.402 60ft - 6.220 1/8 @ 106.266mph - 10.048 1/4 @ 124.884mph
2nd time run, lane 1, reaction.072
1.403 60ft - 6.225 1/8 @ 107.078mph - 10.009 1/4 @ 126.368mph
1st round, lane 1, reaction .055 (dial-in 10.03)
1.399 60ft - 6.227 1/8 @ 106.680mph - 10.045 1/4 @ 124.663mph
Won round 1
2nd round, lane 2, reaction .016 (dial-in 10.04)
1.361 60ft - 6.197 1/8 @ 109.057mph - 10.107 1/4 @ 118.242mph
Won round 2 on the brakes. This would have been a 9.8 something pass by the 60ft and 1/8 mile times.
3rd round, lane 2, reaction .041 (dial-in 10.00)
1.360 60ft - 6.211 1/8 @ 106.194mph - 10.060 1/4 @ 123.613mph
Lost round 3 due to the other guys .019 reaction time, and couldn't run my number.
Still in 1st place at WIR, and 2nd for World Championship points.
Friday 5/4/07
Wisconsin International Raceway - Time runs
SRX
1st 68° 40% humidity, lane 2, reaction .080
1.447 60ft - 6.259 1/8 @ 110.665mph - 9.998 1/4 @ 126.399mph
2nd, lane 1, reaction .001
1.492 60ft - 6.347 1/8 @ 107.146mph - 10.159 1/4 @ 124.657mph
3rd, lane 1, reaction .034
1.583 60ft - 6.502 1/8 @ 107.122mph - 10.308 1/4 @ 125.169mph
** traction got worse as the night went on**
Apex
1st, lane 1, reaction .172
1.485 60ft - 6.383 1/8 @ 107.507mph - 10.001 1/4 @ 127.407mph
2nd, lane 1, reaction .205
1.504 60ft - 6.451 1/8 @ 107.660mph - 10.189 1/4 @ 128.242mph
3rd, lane 1, reaction .615 (reaction was slow because I was street racing a bike, and let him have the jump)
1.479 60ft - 6.371 1/8 @ 107.392mph - 9.994 1/4 @ 127.545mph
Saturday 5/5/07 Summit Super Series Drags - WIR
SRX with about the same temp and humidity
1st time run, lane 2, reaction -.014
1.402 60ft - 6.220 1/8 @ 106.266mph - 10.048 1/4 @ 124.884mph
2nd time run, lane 1, reaction.072
1.403 60ft - 6.225 1/8 @ 107.078mph - 10.009 1/4 @ 126.368mph
1st round, lane 1, reaction .055 (dial-in 10.03)
1.399 60ft - 6.227 1/8 @ 106.680mph - 10.045 1/4 @ 124.663mph
Won round 1
2nd round, lane 2, reaction .016 (dial-in 10.04)
1.361 60ft - 6.197 1/8 @ 109.057mph - 10.107 1/4 @ 118.242mph
Won round 2 on the brakes. This would have been a 9.8 something pass by the 60ft and 1/8 mile times.
3rd round, lane 2, reaction .041 (dial-in 10.00)
1.360 60ft - 6.211 1/8 @ 106.194mph - 10.060 1/4 @ 123.613mph
Lost round 3 due to the other guys .019 reaction time, and couldn't run my number.
Still in 1st place at WIR, and 2nd for World Championship points.
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