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Clutching

byoffcr said:
Tom I know we will all drink to that. Make mine a Pepsi on the rocks with a near beer chaser..

:Rockon: Way to keep a sense of humor Bro.
 

:ORC

I thought this was a thread on clutching, and a couple of posters asked FXR F7 a couple of questions about products he's trying to promote and sell on this board...... well, that and his websic site.


He was the very same over on DooTalk.
He's not there anymore... ;)!
 
Here's how this is going to work guy's you business owners want to sell products on this site then advertise here, if not take your business elsewhere we have plenty of vendors that pay to advertise here and it's not fair to them, you wanna play you gotta pay period! FXR F7 that means you and any other business owner out here that thinks he can get free advertising. One more thread hijack like this one and you WILL be looking elsewhere. :ORC
 
Say I sold Dalton products....Dalton is a site sponsor. I can't go advertising my business here..unless I become a site sponsor.....PLAIN AND SIMPLE. If I called Dalton and inquired about parts, he could direct to one of 100's of his distributors....and that would be based most likely on my location. So if it's a TY sponsor great, if not, too bad! Leave that up to Dalton...or whomever.

BTW,....FXR F7 has many alias's...on Dootalk he is 'MACH's RULE' and 'F7's suck'.

As 1Gunner has said...same thing happened at HCS...the boot!! Trying to sell without becoming a site sponsor.
 
APEXER1 said:
I don't have alot of experence with the rx-1 but it sounds like the same problem with the apex. The engine goes to an idel very quickly, the clutch disengages and the thing wants to stop then you give it the gas and the thing leaps. (very annoying) Take it for what it's worth, if you raise your idel up to at least 1800-1900 rpms it doesn't kick out as fast and rolls through thoes little corners easier.

I don't think a clutch kit will solve that problem. If it does it will probably suck every wear else

When a clutch disengages the belt should be free wheeling around your primary. IF the primary is disengaging when coming off the throttle then it is chassis drag you are feeling. If the belt did not free wheel around the primary you should hear the infamous belt squeal (sled creep) at idle which also means your belt is prematurly wearing. I have had clutch setups that would stay engaged at a lower rpm than actual engagment after moving. I have not had enough seat time on my Apex to judge what is actually happening on the clutches.
 
When a clutch disengages the belt should be free wheeling around your primary. IF the primary is disengaging when coming off the throttle then it is chassis drag or a very quick back shifting secondary you are feeling. If the belt did not free wheel around the primary you should hear the infamous belt squeal (sled creep) at idle which also means your belt is prematurly wearing. I have had clutch setups that would stay engaged at a lower rpm than actual engagment once rolling.

I don't think you own an Apex. If you did you would know that the clutch is on gear reduction. When the engine rpms are 12000 the clutch rpms are 8500. Thats how much gear reduction it has. Not like a two stroke.
So when the engine rpms go as low as 2500 the clutch rpms are probably about 1000 rpms. It is going to be very hard to taylor a clutch like this without messing up the rest of the performance. If you tell me different you don't know what your talking about. Plain and simple...WITHOUT SPENDING LOTS OF MONEY!!!!!!
 
APEXER1 said:
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I don't think you own an Apex. If you did you would know that the clutch is on gear reduction. When the engine rpms are 12000 the clutch rpms are 8500. Thats how much gear reduction it has. Not like a two stroke.
So when the engine rpms go as low as 2500 the clutch rpms are probably about 1000 rpms. It is going to be very hard to taylor a clutch like this without messing up the rest of the performance. If you tell me different you don't know what your talking about. Plain and simple...WITHOUT SPENDING LOTS OF MONEY!!!!!!

First of all I do have an Apex and I do know that the engine has a gear reduction. Do you want me to post a picture. Secondly I never said I was going to try any set up. I simply stated that once a clutch becomes disengaged that the belt would be free wheeling around the primary and that is it. If you get off the throttle and when the clutch becomes disengaged HOW CAN ENGINE DRAG SLOW THE SLED DOWN WHEN IT IS NO LONGER ACTIVE IN THE SLEDS MOVEMENT!! If it stays engaged it would but if you read my post more clearly I stated only when disengaged. Clutching this 4 stroke is somewhat different than a 2 stroke but in order to sit and idle without creeping or squealing the primary still must become disengaged no matter what the engine/clutch rpm difference is. By the way, I think the gear reduction on the Apex is 19%. My sled engages at 3200 engine rpm or 2592 clutch RPM.
 
Some of you posting here don't know jack squat about the sled or clutching one for that matter, and your trying to come off as an expert. Unreal! Looks like the blind leading the blind!
 
Some of you posting here don't know jack squat about the sled or clutching one for that matter, and your trying to come off as an expert. Unreal! Looks like the blind leading the blind!

Not to rub the wrong way.
So then what is the set up mr expert.
 
I will have Prolines banner up soon. You may talk all you want about any product on the site but if you want to push sales without being an advertiser you are in the wrong place. If you want to buy from Proline, you will need to go to there website, click on the banner when its up or talk to one of his distributors THAT advertise on the site. Thank You
 
Well i'm probably wrong about the 12000-8500 ratio. I was using it as an example. my mistake. Some one on here may know the exact ratio, Mike maybe. But the rpms your seeing on the tach are not the same as the clutch.
 
APEXER1 said:
Well i'm probably wrong about the 12000-8500 ratio. I was using it as an example. my mistake. Some one on here may know the exact ratio, Mike maybe. But the rpms your seeing on the tach are not the same as the clutch.

Show me where I stated they are? The RPM difference still does not have anything to do with whether or not a sled is free wheeling once the primary becomes disengaged. My only point here was that once the primary is disengaged engine braking has nothing to do with the sled not free rolling. It must be in the chassis or track/slides drag.
 


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