dealers dropping yamaha?

[TurboJamie]

I haven't seen too many other sleds list to close to this price http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/pro ... S|&LANG=en

Canadian's take it in the hoop big time from all manufacturers!

So what does some of the Doo's list for in your area?

I bought an XF 1100 turbo LE for 13,573 out the door. My 800 etec last winter was 13,800.

 

[Vectornut]

In my area, we have lost a Polaris Cat dealer, a Ski-Doo dealer and a Yamaha Dealer. Has to do more with the economy than anything else. It seems more like a process of dealer consolidation. As far as price goes, I find them all competitively priced within a few dollars model per model. As a former owner of Polaris, John Deere, Rader and Ski-Doo, my Vector has by far been the most pleasing and most satisfying sled I have ever owned.

 

[blueironranger]

the market share thing makes me laugh,it wouldnt be hard for yamaha to gain market share,build something you can sell in the $7-$8000 range that competes with other manufactures,then you flood the market with these cheaper sleds,yamaha makes less money but they sell more cheap sleds wich results in lower resale value wich brings you like doo or poo,look at polaris atv's,no wonder they are #1 in sales,you can buy them so cheap its ridiculous

no doubt on Polaris wheelers, don't think they are number one though. Last numbers I've seen Honda still sits up top, closely followed by Yamaha, then Polaris. I've been looking at getting a new wheeler soon and for the price of Grizzly 550 I've found I can get a Polaris 550 for 1500$ LESS. Polaris and Arctic Cat FLOOD the market with cheap ATV's and both have been gaining market share faster than anyone else. The only one loosing market share is Honda. Don't worry, No POPO wheeler in my future, owned 2 before and will NEVER own one again. Either putting a Rancher 420AT/EPS or Grizzly 550 EPS in the garage to sit along side my Rancher 420ES.

 

[rindtj]

I bought an XF 1100 turbo LE for 13,573 out the door. My 800 etec last winter was 13,800.

What could you get an Apex for OTD? I would have to agree, if you can get that good of a price on a different brands great sled I would have a hard time paying for the Yam...

 

[TurboJamie]

I bought an XF 1100 turbo LE for 13,573 out the door. My 800 etec last winter was 13,800.

What could you get an Apex for OTD? I would have to agree, if you can get that good of a price on a different brands great sled I would have a hard time paying for the Yam...

I called my local dealer just to ask for ya, we used to buy our stuff there so he has no problem giving me a price just incase I wanted to switch. $16,200 + tax for the yamaha.

 

[jaydaniels]

I bought an XF 1100 turbo LE for 13,573 out the door. My 800 etec last winter was 13,800.

What could you get an Apex for OTD? I would have to agree, if you can get that good of a price on a different brands great sled I would have a hard time paying for the Yam...

I called my local dealer just to ask for ya, we used to buy our stuff there so he has no problem giving me a price just incase I wanted to switch. $16,200 + tax for the yamaha.

Is this US funds or CDN?

 

[TurboJamie]

Canadian funds. What do they go for in NS?

 

[dirkdiggler]

Sounds like your dealer has some kind of an issue and is trying to make it look like Yamaha's fault. There is not that much difference in price and if you look at value it amazes me that Yamaha builds these sled's priced as close as they are. My dealer likes having Doo so the shop has something to do and that is a quote from the service manager. They have Yam,cat and Doo. Doo is number one in the shop, Cat two and then Yamaha. Spend on the sled or spend in the shop. I like to ride, Down time sucks!

Yep it's got to be the dealers fault couldn't be Yamaha's fault "tongue firmly in cheek"

 

[vector06]

They are all priced pretty equal actually. The two things that are hurting Yamaha the most are the weight of their sleds and the out of the box setup, or lack there of. Nothing else. They need a new chassis.....

 

[Vectornut]

A new chassis is probabily on the way by now. But, say Yamaha could cut the weight by 70 lbs. Do you really notice any difference between a full tank of gas and a near empty tank in handling and performance? Maybe more tweaks like EPS and low end power with better handling would be the way to go.

 

[jaydaniels]

Canadian funds. What do they go for in NS?

Right around the same here.

 

[vector06]

A new chassis is probabily on the way by now. But, say Yamaha could cut the weight by 70 lbs. Do you really notice any difference between a full tank of gas and a near empty tank in handling and performance? Maybe more tweaks like EPS and low end power with better handling would be the way to go.

After a 300 mile day you would...

 

[AKrider]

Here in AK very few people want Yamaha's. I spent some time in the interior where is reguarly gets to -40 F and I knew my Vector would not have been my first choice of a sled in those conditions simply because of the electric start and weight.

Seems like most people don't care about how smooth or reliable the engine is, they want performance and light weight. Yamaha 4-strokes are heavy, there is no denying that. I know that when I'm stuck digging my sled out I'm not "Okay" with the weight. Even moving the sled around on the trailer or the garage gets old because it is harder to do. I think most people are conditioned to change out sleds every few years because the 2-strokes don't last. By doing so, they end up with a newer, better chassis and everything is nice and tight and works.

I have no plans to get rid of my Nytro but if you ride them hard, the chassis won't last as long as the engine. I think with a 2-stroke, the engine usually lets go about the same time the chassis starts having issues and it is easy for a guy to dump it and buy the next latest and greatest. So for a Yamaha dealer, you are selling people sleds that last longer and don't need to be replaced as often and in turn the factory is not offering anything new and revolutionary like the other OEM's. Seems like a good receipe for declining sales.

I'm thinking for the majortiy of riders, dependibily and reliabilty are not a big influence on their sled buying decision. Plus, both Doo and Cat offer their customers viable 4-stroke choices as well so now Yamaha doesn't even have the 4-stroke market to themselves. Unless I was located on the east coast next to the groomed trail system, I would not want to be in the business of selling Yamaha snowmachines.

 

[Riceburner]

I'm thinking for the majortiy of riders, dependability and reliability are not a big influence on their sled buying decision.

Based on sales it appears you are right.

Me, I'm kind of fond of both.

Gave up on Cat and Poo in the mid nineties and Doo in 1999. Cat and Poo left me and my friends on the trail broke down too many times, I guess I was clairvoyant on the Doo's

 

[dilligaf]

I'm thinking for the majortiy of riders, dependability and reliability are not a big influence on their sled buying decision.

Based on sales it appears you are right.

Me, I'm kind of fond of both.

Gave up on Cat and Poo in the mid nineties and Doo in 1999. Cat and Poo left me and my friends on the trail broke down too many times, I guess I was clairvoyant on the Doo's

X2. Took me a little longer to figure it out though.