I got my clock cleaned

[allyammies]

Just trying to help people out if they were lookin for a Sidewinder. Sharing information, thought that this was what it was about. Sorry new to these group texts. Sounds like this whole slow sled thing has started giving you some insecurities.

If there was myself or Viper Dave would be all over that.

 

[shadow44]

He got the bust.

Not sure what you mean buy that, but watching that video several times, that bolt on Nytro seemed to haul #*$&@ in race 2 and held its own in the third race. Seems like it does well in a short race

 

[Shagnos]

Not sure what you mean buy that, but watching that video several times, that bolt on Nytro seemed to haul #*$&@ in race 2 and held its own in the third race. Seems like it does well in a short race

We let him leave and then we went. Yep it kicks #*$&@ for a 600 ft race.

 

[Bpatch50]

I don't know why everyone is so surprised by this. I would be very surprised to see a bone stock SideWinder beat a tuned Nytro with a power adder in a short race. Nytros come out hard especially with boost.

Get the SideWinder dialed in and we have a different story.

 

[Shagnos]

Nice looking machines. Are you going to get rid of the apex in the back? I am looking for a newer sled for my youngest daughter. Looks super clean.. Does it have the power steering?

I bought it new. No power steering.

 

[vodoo child]

Stutter box will not build full boost at engagement. He may be leaving with a pound or two at best, but he's not into the two-step that long, plus if he was leaving with any boost at all it would be just blazing the track off, just saying. A 6 lb Nytro should run with the sidewinder up at around 200 HP don't see why everyone is all up in arms about it. MCX 180 kit makes an actual 200 HP at about 5.5 # of boost. They underrate their number some just like Yamaha is doing. My 180 MCX 1200 Doo kit dynos around 215-220HP with a muffler mod at 6.5 lbs of boost which is maxed out on stock injectors.

If he was up at 12 lbs on a stock compression engine running race fuel, you would not beat him no matter what tune and muffler you put in the Sidewinder in a Drag Race. Engines with compression and less boost in them make for better drag sleds even it the HP is not quite as high as the de-compressed engine with more boost.

The Sidewinders are not going to be the be all end all if that's what your thinking they are going to be. They will be nice trail sleds that are capable of making good power at a reasonable cost. They will have a factory warranty as long as you don't modify them, but they are not always going to be first to the stripe, don't expect them to be. They will get outrun by cheaper older sleds like turbo vipers, turbo 1200 doos, turbo nytros, and turbo cats. Its just the way its going to be, in the turbo game when you start getting into that 220+ HP range its whoever spends the most or has the most knowledge on how to extract power efficiently that wins.

If you have to be the fastest you have to spend and/or know the most. Been that way forever. Just because you bought a Sidewinder does not mean you will win every race. Break it in good and hard, get some miles on it then see how it does, you may get up there even with him if he's running 6 lbs of boost. Want to go faster you will need to give up the warranty.

Well said Mike, pay attention to what this man has to say fellas. If anyone knows racing it's him. To put it bluntly. Racing "" ANY"" racing is like eating a #*$&@ sandwich, the more bread you got the less #*$&@ ya eat! It could be worse, you could of got smoked by a Doo!

 

[Sledhunter]

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Really, I mean really? Everything I said is true. I was not the only Winder there getting bitchslapped around. Here is your pic.

I hate to admit this but Shagnos is telling the truth. I am the other SW getting my $@@ handed to me in that group. These guys have been Yamaha boys for a very long time as well as friends. I myself have been a DOO guy that has made the choice and right now I'm thinking twice about that choice to come over to the other side. The clutching GURU has been shopping the local flea markets and an occasional garage sale to compile a BARN O PARTS himself. I frequent his shop frequently and am amazed by the technology this guy has. His control center also known as the MOTHERSHIP is the bread and butter of his operation. The worse part is that the sled in question is only his back up sled. Shagnos and I are up the creek when and if "STIRRER" decides to bring out his top dog.

 

[Shagnos]

He said it was hitting the limiter. Going to pop a couple grams on the tip. I got some stuff coming. Gonna be a weekend. I'll make sure there is video. Got some steak for another black eye.

 

[Snowaddict]

I can't believe that someone would spend that kind of money on a sled, gets whooped, and everyone's reply is to put even more $$ into it. Glade I didn't jump to all the hype. Guess I'll keep my Nytro a little longer and just turbo it.

See how well that Nytro does across the lake or more than 1000 ft. Any sled can be made to get going quick in 660 or less. Clutching and gearing will do wonders.
Also, hit a well used trail in the UP early Saturday evening and see how that rides compared to the procross.
And almost forgot, how about a 5 yr warranty on your turboed sled?

 

[#1Yamadogger]

I bought it new. No power steering.

Tried to send you a message, but it won't let me. I might be interested for the rite price, you could getcha some sidewinder extras. Do you ever come up towards upper Wisconsin?

 

[Turbo Dynamics]

A piped td ecotrail sidewinder will mop the floor with that nytro.

Go pros makes it look worse... Wide angle camera

 

[#1Yamadogger]

I hate to admit this but Shagnos is telling the truth. I am the other SW getting my $@@ handed to me in that group. These guys have been Yamaha boys for a very long time as well as friends. I myself have been a DOO guy that has made the choice and right now I'm thinking twice about that choice to come over to the other side. The clutching GURU has been shopping the local flea markets and an occasional garage sale to compile a BARN O PARTS himself. I frequent his shop frequently and am amazed by the technology this guy has. His control center also known as the MOTHERSHIP is the bread and butter of his operation. The worse part is that the sled in question is only his back up sled. Shagnos and I are up the creek when and if "STIRRER" decides to bring out his top dog.

What kinda sled is the Top Dog, got some big motor in it?

 

[Shagnos]

Tried to send you a message, but it won't let me. I might be interested for the rite price, you could getcha some sidewinder extras. Do you ever come up towards upper Wisconsin?

Yep...ride land o lakes. Was at Bents camp for the bikin run last year.

 

[newtron]

Sidewinder is slow and nytro is super fast. End of this thread

No one knows what is done to this super fast nytro

Really why do people keep commenting!

 

[newtron]

Oh wait I just commented. Damn it!

Lol. Just having fun