garserio
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I would like to pick my Vector track and need advice from those who have already done so.
I have to admit that the new Ripsaw track is quite impressive and you really don't need studs for most conditions.
My reason for wanting to add studs is to just add another margin of safety for traction and braking in the icy corners and maybe having a little better drag race hole shot performance on the lake runs.
I'm thinking 144 picks...
Thanks in advance!
I have to admit that the new Ripsaw track is quite impressive and you really don't need studs for most conditions.
My reason for wanting to add studs is to just add another margin of safety for traction and braking in the icy corners and maybe having a little better drag race hole shot performance on the lake runs.
I'm thinking 144 picks...
Thanks in advance!
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garserio,
I studded mine nad it hooks up AWESOME! I have some questions on your set up that I e-mailed you and would like ot learn more. Mine looks like this and I used ONLY DOUBLE BACKERS with WOODY'S MEGA BITES 1.325 inches and down the middle.
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This works out to be about 160 studs. Oh, BTW, I used the tall aluminum nuts as well.
I studded mine nad it hooks up AWESOME! I have some questions on your set up that I e-mailed you and would like ot learn more. Mine looks like this and I used ONLY DOUBLE BACKERS with WOODY'S MEGA BITES 1.325 inches and down the middle.
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This works out to be about 160 studs. Oh, BTW, I used the tall aluminum nuts as well.
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Well, that diagram did not work out as I would have liked.
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I posted pictures of mine in this thread
http://www.rx1.info/viewtopic.php?t=7984
144 in the center belt.
http://www.rx1.info/viewtopic.php?t=7984
144 in the center belt.
twomorestrokes
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vector studding
I think Flipper's pattern is the coolest looking one so far. I used the Woody's universal templet with double backers, but so far I'm happy with 96. No kick out on corners so far, but I only have 100 miles on my sled. I bought enough for 144 in case I decide to add. Here is the pattern that I used.
I think Flipper's pattern is the coolest looking one so far. I used the Woody's universal templet with double backers, but so far I'm happy with 96. No kick out on corners so far, but I only have 100 miles on my sled. I bought enough for 144 in case I decide to add. Here is the pattern that I used.
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rock
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I install studs for a local sled shop and I would definately recommend 144down the center only. If you're looking for safety and a bit more hook-up then this is the way to go. Only putting 96 studs in a sled with the horsepower and torque of the vector is going to add too much stress to the track under hard-pack conditions.
twomorestrokes
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recommendations
I know it is recommended to place more studs than 96, but for me, with the aggressive lug track it seems to almost hook too well with 96. Everyone's style is different though. I could not manage to kick the back end loose on corners whatsoever on my last outing. I was hoping for a little looser handling this season, as I had 144 on my SX and it really stuck. Everyone in my group went down to 96 with their deeper tracks in the last two years and I went off their recommendations. (F7, Pro X, Rev) I may end up adding the other 48 if more trail miles indicate that I should, as I have only been out once and the conditions will certainly change in the future..
According to Woody's site, I should be using 192 for a performance application. I couldn't imagine needing that many.
rock said:Only putting 96 studs in a sled with the horsepower and torque of the vector is going to add too much stress to the track under hard-pack conditions.
I know it is recommended to place more studs than 96, but for me, with the aggressive lug track it seems to almost hook too well with 96. Everyone's style is different though. I could not manage to kick the back end loose on corners whatsoever on my last outing. I was hoping for a little looser handling this season, as I had 144 on my SX and it really stuck. Everyone in my group went down to 96 with their deeper tracks in the last two years and I went off their recommendations. (F7, Pro X, Rev) I may end up adding the other 48 if more trail miles indicate that I should, as I have only been out once and the conditions will certainly change in the future..
According to Woody's site, I should be using 192 for a performance application. I couldn't imagine needing that many.
Tfin
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rock said:I install studs for a local sled shop and I would definately recommend 144down the center only. If you're looking for safety and a bit more hook-up then this is the way to go. Only putting 96 studs in a sled with the horsepower and torque of the vector is going to add too much stress to the track under hard-pack conditions.
I was thinking 120 up the middle in a modified Woody's 96 aggressive pattern.
Any thoughts on that?
rock
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The problem with putting only 96 studs (or even 120) is that the track could be damaged under certain conditions. Be careful not to put studs that have too much penetration. On the Camoplast Rip Saw track it's not recommended to have a full 1/4 inch as is usually the rule. I think it's 1.375 inch, but, check to make sure.
twomorestrokes
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Woody's recommends 1.325", but I've seen others that say 1.375". I'll let you know if I see any track damage. I think I'll be ok with them all in the middle. I sold my SX because I didn't feel like changing the track. I ripped several studs out of the track but they were on the outer portion. That was only a 600 and it had 144.
Woody's recommends 1.325", but I've seen others that say 1.375". I'll let you know if I see any track damage. I think I'll be ok with them all in the middle. I sold my SX because I didn't feel like changing the track. I ripped several studs out of the track but they were on the outer portion. That was only a 600 and it had 144.
QCRider
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I will never understand why it is that people feel they need to destroy a nicely groomed trail by doing this...
twomorestrokes said:I could not manage to kick the back end loose on corners whatsoever on my last outing.
I will never understand why it is that people feel they need to destroy a nicely groomed trail by doing this...
twomorestrokes
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You don't need to do this on nicely groomed trails, as all you have to do is lean into the corner. They don't require the extra effort. I do very much appreciate the hard working groomers and contribute funds when I get the chance. It's when they aren't so nicely groomed and the corners are all ice that sometimes it is easier to steer whith the rear. Call me a wahoo if you'd like.
You don't need to do this on nicely groomed trails, as all you have to do is lean into the corner. They don't require the extra effort. I do very much appreciate the hard working groomers and contribute funds when I get the chance. It's when they aren't so nicely groomed and the corners are all ice that sometimes it is easier to steer whith the rear. Call me a wahoo if you'd like.
Tfin
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rock said:The problem with putting only 96 studs (or even 120) is that the track could be damaged under certain conditions. Be careful not to put studs that have too much penetration. On the Camoplast Rip Saw track it's not recommended to have a full 1/4 inch as is usually the rule. I think it's 1.375 inch, but, check to make sure.
Yeah, I know the correct size stud to use. I've always heard the old "1 stud per hp" rule.....thus 120 studs in a 120 hp sled. Plus having them all in the middle and none in the outside I think wouild sufice. To many studs can cause a needless excess of rotating mass I would think.
The 1.25" track should be aggressive enough for most applications, and the studs should mainly benefit in icy or super hardpack situations.
Snakebit
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Well, it's been a while, has anyone got any updates on their # of studs and patterns? I need to stud it up and would sure appreciate a little more opinion.
Thanks Guys!
Thanks Guys!
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I am happy with me setup to date, just over 1200 miles.
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