My 725 Mile Review

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My wife and I spent the week in the UP, rode out of Paradise to Grand Marais, Pine Stump, Lighthouse, Soo, etc. Got 540 miles in with the Mrs. and 185 without. I will be posting the same as below on the 300 page dootalk thread.

What I have ridden > 500 miles in my riding career: 1987 Exciter (hence the username), early 90's polaris indy xlt extra 12( I think it was 12), 2005 renegade 600 ( studded), 2009 yamaha vector, 2010 yamaha apex. I have been on sleds my whole life pretty much.

My set up: Sidewinder LTX-LE. C&A RZRs with Slim Jims. 144 extreme max 1.4s in the woodys 144 pattern, double and single backers up the middle. Qs3's set to 2 all the way round.

Here are my thoughts:

Turbo Bolts: I took the sled to get that resolved on the way UP with the artic cat bulletin in hand. Took a few hours, but all is good in that department so far. I checked them twice after.

Rollers: They appear to be fine at this point. I may put the hauck ones in though.

Belt: Still original

Clutches: I checked them after a few of the days, one day they were warm when we pushed it home a little hard because we were a little behind schedule ( a warm day). The next day they were cool when we got home ( a cooler day). I did notice the foam under them was getting wet every day though.

Had its 500 mile service done by the same dealer that did the recall. Seemed to be a real PITA to get to the chaincase change, but there were some metal shavings in there for sure, so glad I got it done.

Suspension: The first two days were pretty chopped up so I had a chance to really test out the QS3's. They really shined here. I wasn't pounding it, but I wasn't babying it either. It was really quite nice.

The heat: I was surprised by how fast it would heat up ( less so because of what I have read on here). Since I was with the Mrs. I was waiting quite a bit the first few days and it would shut it self down 2-3 min. after I would stop. Granted it was 32-35 degrees those days ( it was slightly better later in the week when it was 10-15 degrees). At one point I moved it a foot to keep it from shutting down, but then the temp light came on so I had to shut it down anyway. Let it sit for a minute, maybe 2 and took off, it was fine. Its equally "surprising" how fast it cools right off once you move. Even at 25-30 mph it cools off quickly. It only got hot on "its own" when we were coming through Brimley really slow ( irritates me the way that trail is routed right on the road with 0 snow, the lake is not an option yet either)

The engine sound: My helmet sucks.. but... The apex drone was annoying for sure, but the "grind" of this engine at low speeds is hard to get used to, at first I was wondering if something was wrong, but then remembered hearing how the viper sounded at low speeds, so all is good. Once you ramp up the speed >40/50 its much better.

The Vibration: I did notice a few times, mostly at lower speeds, some vibration in the tunnel, not sure if that is normal or not.

The handling: As I said above, the first few days were chopped up, but it was turning and moving around just great really. So much easier to move around than the apex was (granted I didnt have EPS on that apex). One apex rider I saw on the trail asked me about that very thing( he commented the apex was like moving around a dresser). I told him it was night and day, and it really was. Come day 3 we had less traffic and some fresh groom. It was interesting because I felt like it was starting to push a little bit, but then I realized I had not really been "leaning into" it much the first few days because of the trail chop. So, I simply just had to lean a little and it would turn very well. Sometimes I would have to kick the rear end out a little with some power to get it far to the right, but I rarely felt I was pushing to the other side of the trail on a bend. Got some inside ski lift less than 5 times the whole week, a few times I was really trying to do it as well. On the "hard steering" issue, I really didnt think it was at all 95% of the time. If i was being lazy or slowing down waiting on someone I would notice it was harder <25mph maybe, but not unbearable. Taking a turn at any sort of speed was really quite effortless. I did notice I may have to turn it a little past where I thought it needed to be to make some of the bends though, but it always reacted when I did. The last day it had snowed about 2 feet of fresh powder so it pushed a little then, but so did the two ski-doos in my group (one a studded 850 tnt).

The power: Frankly, its amazing. No matter where you hit this thing in in the mph range it lets you know it. I hit it at 30,60,90 and my arms knew I had hit it. Conditions ( and my riding partner most of the week) were not exactly conducive to high speed runs, but the few times I had a chance to open it up I was still under 300 miles so I didn't want to totally mash it. That being said, I have never gone from 50-100 or 70-105 so fast. I let off it at 105 4-5 times and there is no doubt there was plenty more to go. No doubt 115 is an easy get, possibly even 120. After the first day or two I actually told my wife it may be "too much" for me. Then I got used to it, lol. I will push it on my next trip UP.

I am heading back UP in 3 weeks for a backpack trip into the peninsula. I am guessing the 850 tnt guy in my group and I may switch for a day to see what each other thinks.

I think that covers everything I thought of during the week. Knock on wood on the issues that others are having ( rollers, belts, bolts, fuel rails). Any other things I have forgotten that you want to know, just ask.
 
My wife and I spent the week in the UP, rode out of Paradise to Grand Marais, Pine Stump, Lighthouse, Soo, etc. Got 540 miles in with the Mrs. and 185 without. I will be posting the same as below on the 300 page dootalk thread.

What I have ridden > 500 miles in my riding career: 1987 Exciter (hence the username), early 90's polaris indy xlt extra 12( I think it was 12), 2005 renegade 600 ( studded), 2009 yamaha vector, 2010 yamaha apex. I have been on sleds my whole life pretty much.

My set up: Sidewinder LTX-LE. C&A RZRs with Slim Jims. 144 extreme max 1.4s in the woodys 144 pattern, double and single backers up the middle. Qs3's set to 2 all the way round.

Here are my thoughts:

Turbo Bolts: I took the sled to get that resolved on the way UP with the artic cat bulletin in hand. Took a few hours, but all is good in that department so far. I checked them twice after.

Rollers: They appear to be fine at this point. I may put the hauck ones in though.

Belt: Still original

Clutches: I checked them after a few of the days, one day they were warm when we pushed it home a little hard because we were a little behind schedule ( a warm day). The next day they were cool when we got home ( a cooler day). I did notice the foam under them was getting wet every day though.

Had its 500 mile service done by the same dealer that did the recall. Seemed to be a real PITA to get to the chaincase change, but there were some metal shavings in there for sure, so glad I got it done.

Suspension: The first two days were pretty chopped up so I had a chance to really test out the QS3's. They really shined here. I wasn't pounding it, but I wasn't babying it either. It was really quite nice.

The heat: I was surprised by how fast it would heat up ( less so because of what I have read on here). Since I was with the Mrs. I was waiting quite a bit the first few days and it would shut it self down 2-3 min. after I would stop. Granted it was 32-35 degrees those days ( it was slightly better later in the week when it was 10-15 degrees). At one point I moved it a foot to keep it from shutting down, but then the temp light came on so I had to shut it down anyway. Let it sit for a minute, maybe 2 and took off, it was fine. Its equally "surprising" how fast it cools right off once you move. Even at 25-30 mph it cools off quickly. It only got hot on "its own" when we were coming through Brimley really slow ( irritates me the way that trail is routed right on the road with 0 snow, the lake is not an option yet either)

The engine sound: My helmet sucks.. but... The apex drone was annoying for sure, but the "grind" of this engine at low speeds is hard to get used to, at first I was wondering if something was wrong, but then remembered hearing how the viper sounded at low speeds, so all is good. Once you ramp up the speed >40/50 its much better.

The Vibration: I did notice a few times, mostly at lower speeds, some vibration in the tunnel, not sure if that is normal or not.

The handling: As I said above, the first few days were chopped up, but it was turning and moving around just great really. So much easier to move around than the apex was (granted I didnt have EPS on that apex). One apex rider I saw on the trail asked me about that very thing( he commented the apex was like moving around a dresser). I told him it was night and day, and it really was. Come day 3 we had less traffic and some fresh groom. It was interesting because I felt like it was starting to push a little bit, but then I realized I had not really been "leaning into" it much the first few days because of the trail chop. So, I simply just had to lean a little and it would turn very well. Sometimes I would have to kick the rear end out a little with some power to get it far to the right, but I rarely felt I was pushing to the other side of the trail on a bend. Got some inside ski lift less than 5 times the whole week, a few times I was really trying to do it as well. On the "hard steering" issue, I really didnt think it was at all 95% of the time. If i was being lazy or slowing down waiting on someone I would notice it was harder <25mph maybe, but not unbearable. Taking a turn at any sort of speed was really quite effortless. I did notice I may have to turn it a little past where I thought it needed to be to make some of the bends though, but it always reacted when I did. The last day it had snowed about 2 feet of fresh powder so it pushed a little then, but so did the two ski-doos in my group (one a studded 850 tnt).

The power: Frankly, its amazing. No matter where you hit this thing in in the mph range it lets you know it. I hit it at 30,60,90 and my arms knew I had hit it. Conditions ( and my riding partner most of the week) were not exactly conducive to high speed runs, but the few times I had a chance to open it up I was still under 300 miles so I didn't want to totally mash it. That being said, I have never gone from 50-100 or 70-105 so fast. I let off it at 105 4-5 times and there is no doubt there was plenty more to go. No doubt 115 is an easy get, possibly even 120. After the first day or two I actually told my wife it may be "too much" for me. Then I got used to it, lol. I will push it on my next trip UP.

I am heading back UP in 3 weeks for a backpack trip into the peninsula. I am guessing the 850 tnt guy in my group and I may switch for a day to see what each other thinks.

I think that covers everything I thought of during the week. Knock on wood on the issues that others are having ( rollers, belts, bolts, fuel rails). Any other things I have forgotten that you want to know, just ask.
Thanks! I'd say pretty much the same things at 300 miles...

Great review and fun to read and thanks again for taking the time to write it!
 
Ya,great write up bro,nice to see a good report.
 


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