Team Primary on Winder secondary mocked up

[johan]

Isn't the 8dn too narrow?

Yes a little but it shouldnt be any problem

 

[@123]

Hi Dan,
Lots have asked recently about how cat secondary springs may compare...I thought..." there must be something on line...because last year everyone wanted springs not so heavy...now they seem to want to compare springs that are way heavier",lol...Funny thing is, some of the same ones who thought the very soft pink (apex) in the new sidewinder SRX must be the ticket now are asking about cat springs! It keeps me entertained. Some are fully switching from what they already ordered and planned to test with and they havent even tested yet with no snow! Internet and sledheads= powerfiul. (and good for business I guess)

The YBT Black /Tan is one that we had requests for. the pressures and twist values are all there onthe page. Some people with very tall gearing and bigger power /turbos requested something like that and they seem happy with it and re-order them for others etc. Its been going out the door. Probably good for some. For most people with trail tuned sidewinders the Standard DPSS-YBO Black/orange will still be the more suitable with most of the kits out there for stock clutches, and is a far bigger selling option.

We have always had some that do it with Cat springs. Some like it, some don't, I'm sure you can make either work ...like all clutching, everyone is right in their own mind or whatever, fine with me either way. There are lots that use the Cat springs also, it may however require that you may have to re-work the whole rest of your clutch recipe a bit, so maybe dont just read half the story. Remember that clutching is the whole system and changing one part may make the rest of what you run in both clutches have different requirements. In particular with Sidewinders, since there are so many variations of tune, gearing, clutch recipes and then ..I guess primary clutches thrown into the mix.

Nice to see people keep testing though, you never know what comes from R&D. It may be just the ticket for the thing Mike is doing with the Team clutch. I'm sure he will see soon.

I just thought I would clarify the spring comparison a bit ( Cat springs to Yamaha clutch) for those interested in the experimentation of it.

question i have the dalton B/O set at 6-1 . but if i put it say 6-3 ihave more torsion but does it gets more compression too ? cause i have belt slip at 6-1 on 2-3 of the shift so i put it at 9-1 my clutch and belt were hotter and i blew my belt . i just bought your new B/tan but didn’t try it yet .what setting i should start with 3-2? thks

 

[Crossfire12]

AC green? No slip

 

[STAIN]

I run the A/C green at 0-1 with a 270 tune---no slip

 

[@123]

I run the A/C green at 0-1 with a 270 tune---no slip

is it the same as dalton ac white? and what helix angle? tks

 

[ClutchMaster]

White dalton is the same as AC green

 

[ClutchMaster]

is it the same as dalton ac white? and what helix angle? tks

He’s running a straight 35

 

[@123]

He’s running a straight 40 degrees, Correct me if I’m wrong.

k thks im running 41/37 at 20 psi 153 track 2”
so 6-2 white? btx

 

[Crossfire12]

40/35, green spring,STM secondary, 270 hp, no slip, green spring and epi purple springs will not bind like the Yamaha springs, my friends 240 Super charged Nytro was always having spring bind until he tried the green spring, less coils, no slip.

 

[ClutchMaster]

He’s running a straight 40 degrees, Correct me if I’m wrong.

I see this is wrong, he told me he switched to a 35 degree helix my bad.

 

[ClutchMaster]

k thks im running 41/37 at 20 psi 153 track 2”
so 6-2 white? btx

Well some guys can run the cat dalton white with the 41/37 and have good results, others report that it is bogging. I would try it with a little more wrap 9-2 or 0-1 with a XS825.
OR.... if you run the 8DN belt use the STM orange secondary spring wound lightly, around 6-3.

 

[PowderFalcon]

I run the A/C green at 0-1 with a 270 tune---no slip

but how hot are your clutches?> I tried that spring and wrap and mine were wicked hot!!

 

[STAIN]

but how hot are your clutches?> I tried that spring and wrap and mine were wicked hot!!

not hot at all. I can hold my hands on them . Belt has gone 1500 miles so far also.

 

[ROCKERDAN]

but how hot are your clutches?> I tried that spring and wrap and mine were wicked hot!!

Similar to my White at 9/1....singed my finger when I grabbed secondary.

Dan

 

[Crossfire12]

Similar to my White at 9/1....singed my finger when I grabbed secondary.

Dan

Really that hot, still running that spring? Mines different because STM secondary.