Phazer2Viper
Extreme
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2014
- Messages
- 106
- Location
- Slinger, WI/ Three Lakes, WI
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-DX 15,000 miles and counting!
2008 Phazer GT 128" track 10,444 miles (sold)
2008 Nytro RTX 136" 3800 miles (sold)
2000 Phazer 6500 Miles (Sold)
1990 Phazer II 10,000 miles (sold)
The guides on my track were gouged out by my torsion spring last winter. I spent the last 2 years on the stiffest setting and didnt have a problem until March when i decided to change the settings. Then this happened. Im looking at getting a new track but i dont want to drop 500 bucks and destroy it. What do you think?
Attachments
Mooseman
I'm not all knowing. Post your question in forum.
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2009
- Messages
- 3,964
- Location
- Greely, Ontario
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- '07 Venture MP (gone)
'07 Phazer FX (gone)
'09 Phazer GT (gone)
'10 RS Venture GT (My current ride)
'10 Nytro FX (son's)
- LOCATION
- Greely, ON Canada
Of course fix the suspension and springs before replacing the track. I would definitely change it as those guides prevent the track from going sideways.
Phazer2Viper
Extreme
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2014
- Messages
- 106
- Location
- Slinger, WI/ Three Lakes, WI
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-DX 15,000 miles and counting!
2008 Phazer GT 128" track 10,444 miles (sold)
2008 Nytro RTX 136" 3800 miles (sold)
2000 Phazer 6500 Miles (Sold)
1990 Phazer II 10,000 miles (sold)
That was my thought too but why would it do that? And what is it that needs replacing?
Mooseman
I'm not all knowing. Post your question in forum.
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2009
- Messages
- 3,964
- Location
- Greely, Ontario
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- '07 Venture MP (gone)
'07 Phazer FX (gone)
'09 Phazer GT (gone)
'10 RS Venture GT (My current ride)
'10 Nytro FX (son's)
- LOCATION
- Greely, ON Canada
I'd inspect everything, including the rail end caps to be sure they're still there (I've had one take a vacation on me once). Maybe the track alignment or tension was way off?
SnoNinja
aka "Plan B"
- Joined
- Feb 18, 2015
- Messages
- 605
- Age
- 57
- Location
- Gaylord, Michigan
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-LE
2016 Vector LE For my Bride
2007 Phazer GT, 136" Stretch.
2002 SXR600 (still own)
1997 SX600 (sold)
1997 XT500 (sold)
2013 Can-Am Maverick 1000XRS
2006 Dodge Charger RT - Top Banana Daytona
I'm wondering of the springs aren't in the retainer blocks (the blocks mounted on the rails) properly. since the front ends of the springs move away from the track at compression, I'd start my inspection at the front retainer blocks. Also, lift the back of the sled to decompress the suspension and look at the front of the springs. One other thing that might be going on is broken front arm or link and bent rods. This might allow the suspension to move back in the tunnel decreasing the clearance at the tips of the springs.
Mooseman
I'm not all knowing. Post your question in forum.
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2009
- Messages
- 3,964
- Location
- Greely, Ontario
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- '07 Venture MP (gone)
'07 Phazer FX (gone)
'09 Phazer GT (gone)
'10 RS Venture GT (My current ride)
'10 Nytro FX (son's)
- LOCATION
- Greely, ON Canada
Do check your front H suspension arm as the early models had cracking/breakage issues. There were also issues with the rear shock pivot at the lower front idlers.
Voda2000
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2006
- Messages
- 592
- Location
- Winnipeg Manitoba
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- 2007 Phazer GT 136"
The spring retainer blocks are offset. Could the be installed the wrong way?
Gone Blue
VIP Member
- Joined
- Oct 11, 2006
- Messages
- 1,617
- Age
- 62
- Location
- Howell, Michigan
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 08' Nytro RTX 40th Anniversary - Stretched
I think some additional pictures would help to see whats is going on. G.B.
Phazer2Viper
Extreme
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2014
- Messages
- 106
- Location
- Slinger, WI/ Three Lakes, WI
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-DX 15,000 miles and counting!
2008 Phazer GT 128" track 10,444 miles (sold)
2008 Nytro RTX 136" 3800 miles (sold)
2000 Phazer 6500 Miles (Sold)
1990 Phazer II 10,000 miles (sold)
Thanks for the help. I currently dont have the sled with me but last time i looked it over when it was elevated on the trailer and there wasnt anything blatantly obvious.
hibshman25
Vendor
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2005
- Messages
- 2,865
- Age
- 40
- Location
- Lebanon, PA 17042
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2017 sidewinder ltx dx
2018 snoscoot
I'd focus on the front plastic loops behind the front outside idler wheel. The torsion springs hook into the loops there. How much clearance is there between the track and end of spring? There are different length springs. If someone swapped out springs from another sled perhaps they are too long.
Phazer2Viper
Extreme
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2014
- Messages
- 106
- Location
- Slinger, WI/ Three Lakes, WI
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-DX 15,000 miles and counting!
2008 Phazer GT 128" track 10,444 miles (sold)
2008 Nytro RTX 136" 3800 miles (sold)
2000 Phazer 6500 Miles (Sold)
1990 Phazer II 10,000 miles (sold)
Well figured it out. My upper guide wheels flattened once again. This caused the track to rub on the torsion spring.
SnoNinja
aka "Plan B"
- Joined
- Feb 18, 2015
- Messages
- 605
- Age
- 57
- Location
- Gaylord, Michigan
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-LE
2016 Vector LE For my Bride
2007 Phazer GT, 136" Stretch.
2002 SXR600 (still own)
1997 SX600 (sold)
1997 XT500 (sold)
2013 Can-Am Maverick 1000XRS
2006 Dodge Charger RT - Top Banana Daytona
Best solution is to replace those with Arctic Cat wheels. They are same size and have replaceable bearings. The are solid and can't get locked up by ice in the tunnel like the stock spoked ones. Cheap too. Part number is on the site somewhere. Also might consider Hygear torsion spring spacers. The replace the small black plastic inside the torsion loop and keep the spring in a more level position.Well figured it out. My upper guide wheels flattened once again. This caused the track to rub on the torsion spring.
SnoNinja
aka "Plan B"
- Joined
- Feb 18, 2015
- Messages
- 605
- Age
- 57
- Location
- Gaylord, Michigan
- Country
- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2015 Viper LTX-LE
2016 Vector LE For my Bride
2007 Phazer GT, 136" Stretch.
2002 SXR600 (still own)
1997 SX600 (sold)
1997 XT500 (sold)
2013 Can-Am Maverick 1000XRS
2006 Dodge Charger RT - Top Banana Daytona
Replacement upper guide wheels in general phazer talk is the thread.. 2014 AC snow pro 600. I put these on my 07 build and they worked great.
Last edited:
Similar threads
- Replies
- 15
- Views
- 3K
- Replies
- 4
- Views
- 931
- Replies
- 91
- Views
- 43K
-
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.