Want HOT hands?..It can be done!!! EDITED FIRST POST

[mbro223]

Re: more data

hey guys, just checking in.

I have inadvertantly torture tested the new warmer setup. heheh. I bumped the button to FULL MAXIMUM HAND SCORCHING POWER for at least a few minutes. No ill effects except my hand were just baking! I turned them down to 25% again, all is OK.
Likewise here. I've run mine on hi for about 5 minutes with no ill affects. The things get stupid-hot though! I run on one bar or no bar usually. If my hands get cold while we are taking a break or something, I may put em' up to 4 bars just to warm my hands up.

cheers y'all

PistonBroke

 

[johnxr]

I did the mod on my 06 Apex ER and it works as advertised. 2 bars is plenty!!!

Thanks for the info on how to do this.

 

[wigyami]

warmers

Will just swapping out the bars work on a 08 Vector GT.

 

[Capt.Storm]

Just got back from my Yamaha dealer..he has two more sets left of the update kit.
I'll use just the harness...my bro wants the bars for his 03 RX-1...will they work on it?

 

[RADNYTROFX]

WOW

I just put original 06 bars on my 08 nytro, and they are hot! what a great idea!

 

[monsterattak]

Thanks Rockerdan. I used the Phazer harness on my 06' attak with stock bars and she is good to go! no cut. no splice..just plug and ride...

no more putting my gloves in the trunk during trail breaks to keep them warm so my fingies wont freeze in the fifteen minutes it would take my grips to get lukewarm... What a pain in da azz.....

 

[Metallicat]

I installed a wiring harness kit that YAM have for the PZ50 GT/MT, here's the part #90891-50150 on my '08 APEX, it CLIPS right on the original wiring no cutting or splicing wires, it takes about 20 minutes to install.

This kit converts the stock in SERIES connection to PARALEL wiring, it did IMPROVE the performance of I'd say 75% or so, theirs MORE heat generated for sure but still not as warm as my '05 was!!!

I was running on the weekend and I can NOW feel HEAT!!! threw my cloves which I couldn't before, they barely got warm before...

I took PICS of harness and installation I'll try to post them tommorow night...

P.S. I'd like to thank "yel_low" who gave me this tip!!!

I think this is the route I am going to follow this year, rather than try to find 2006 bars for a good price. The wiring harness mentioned above is around $15 and sounds like it provides a marked improvement over the stock setup, which I agree is miserable.

 

[apltx08]

I installed a wiring harness kit that YAM have for the PZ50 GT/MT, here's the part #90891-50150 on my '08 APEX, it CLIPS right on the original wiring no cutting or splicing wires, it takes about 20 minutes to install.

This kit converts the stock in SERIES connection to PARALEL wiring, it did IMPROVE the performance of I'd say 75% or so, theirs MORE heat generated for sure but still not as warm as my '05 was!!!

I was running on the weekend and I can NOW feel HEAT!!! threw my cloves which I couldn't before, they barely got warm before...

I took PICS of harness and installation I'll try to post them tommorow night...


P.S. I'd like to thank "yel_low" who gave me this tip!!!

I think this is the route I am going to follow this year, rather than try to find 2006 bars for a good price. The wiring harness mentioned above is around $15 and sounds like it provides a marked improvement over the stock setup, which I agree is miserable.

I don't wan't to discourage you but its not a 100% I'd say 50% after my riding season I can now comment on results and they're not all that great of improvement...I realy don't know what to do, we'll see if the '09 are better and if so maybe go that route and see what they did different???

 

[Metallicat]

Well then I need to find something else too! I am not going to suffer another year of cold hands on this darned thing! Maybe the hand warmer harness upgrade combined with the Skinz trail handguards and the warmest gloves I can find will do the trick?

I installed a wiring harness kit that YAM have for the PZ50 GT/MT, here's the part #90891-50150 on my '08 APEX, it CLIPS right on the original wiring no cutting or splicing wires, it takes about 20 minutes to install.

This kit converts the stock in SERIES connection to PARALEL wiring, it did IMPROVE the performance of I'd say 75% or so, theirs MORE heat generated for sure but still not as warm as my '05 was!!!

I was running on the weekend and I can NOW feel HEAT!!! threw my cloves which I couldn't before, they barely got warm before...

I took PICS of harness and installation I'll try to post them tommorow night...


P.S. I'd like to thank "yel_low" who gave me this tip!!!

I think this is the route I am going to follow this year, rather than try to find 2006 bars for a good price. The wiring harness mentioned above is around $15 and sounds like it provides a marked improvement over the stock setup, which I agree is miserable.

I don't wan't to discourage you but its not a 100% I'd say 50% after my riding season I can now comment on results and they're not all that great of improvement...I realy don't know what to do, we'll see if the '09 are better and if so maybe go that route and see what they did different???

 

[apltx08]

I sure hope they found a cure for '09 models so that we can cure our problem without having to go with '06 bars which I hate!

 

[Blue Dave]

In '07 Yamaha changed the Apex hand grip wiring from series to parallel. There is nothing that you can change in the wiring of an '07 to improve upon that. I am assuming that the same is true of '08's

This is why the '06 bars (that were designed for use in the '06 series circuit) get so hot with '07 parallel wiring. Again I am assuming that this applies to the '08's as well.

If the '08's are wired in parallel like the '07's, then no wiring change is going to help. You will need a set of '06 bars plugged into your stock wiring harness.

 

[RADNYTROFX]

the 08 and 07 wiring are the same. i am sure the 09 will be also. thast why the 06 bars are the key to hot hands here!!!!!

 

[Blue Dave]

Apltx08, this is probably why at the end of the season you weren't so sure the wiring change helped much. I can not see how it would have helped at all.

No wiring modification alone will help any '07 or '08 since they are already wired in parallel. '06 bars in an '07 or '08 is the ticket!

The only sleds that need the wiring changed are the '06's to convert from series to parallel. If you have an '06, do the wiring change but leave the original bars on.

 

[apltx08]

Apltx08, this is probably why at the end of the season you weren't so sure the wiring change helped much. I can not see how it would have helped at all.

No wiring modification alone will help any '07 or '08 since they are already wired in parallel. '06 bars in an '07 or '08 is the ticket!

The only sleds that need the wiring changed are the '06's to convert from series to parallel. If you have an '06, do the wiring change but leave the original bars on.

The thing is I hate the '06 bars due to design...

 

[Blue Dave]

I haven't changed anything myself. I just put on gauntlets when it gets really cold.

I am hoping that the '09 bars have better heated grips that can be installed on my '07! Better yet, a free upgrade kit! (I won't hold my breath).

What is so frustrating is that Yamaha knows how to make hot grips. My Viper, both my SRX's, all my V-Maxes, basically all of the older two stroke models would practically burn your hands on high!