Who is running or has gone back to Tuner ski?

[SAB1]

One of my buddies is running the tuners with the shaper bars mentioned above and the other is running with the square qualipieces above. Both are having great luck with them. I’m considering switching back,

 

[1nc 2000]

I ran the tuners for the first winter on my sled with the carbide that came in it. Any loose snow on the trail they pushed bad even with the limiter strap in the third hole. Took them off and am much happier now with the slp Mohawk skis.

 

[STAIN]

I never even tried my tuners based on what I read on this site.

And there lies the problem with internet. Some read something and take it as gospel without even trying it for themselves. The interweb is a great resource and can be used to send you in a correct direction, but never take anything you read here or anywhere else as the end all.
Case in point, how many people have a reverse angle helix for a Sidewinder on their shelf?
To test is to know.
That all being said, I ran the tuners, didn't like them and went with a stock Cat ski with slim jims. Maybe there is a combo that would work for me but I knew from my 14 Viper what I wanted.
I like the tuners on the Delta box chassis though...

 

[grubf]

They may or may not work on certain trails with certain carbide. BUT. They are a narrow ski. Not even 6 inches wide. They will never float in any kind of powder like a 6.9 or a mohawk. They are a flat bottomed ski and will follow previous tracks more often than a rocker type ski. Under certain conditions they might work great but they are not and never will be a good all around ski.

 

[hibshman25]

I never even tried my tuners based on what I read on this site. What does a set of snotrackers run $?

I sell the kit for $250. Testing them on my dads winder this season. About 1000 miles so far and they are a dramatic improvement to the tuner ski.

 

[74Nitro]

I've never tried a different ski, but I run as much carbide as I can buy on them. I would like it if the ACE bar was available for this ski.

 

[stevewithOCD]

I'm going back to tuners & putting Semi-Agressive SnoTrackers on.
I thought my sled handled good until i rode buds'.
4 of us agreed his sled handles WAAAAAYYY better then mine.

 

[Stormbringer]

I have the tuner 3's. I do not know if that is an improvement from the previous generation or just a name. But anyway I run the woody's 6 inch on both sides of the ski. I have set the front track spring preload to 1/2 inch. Along with the front spring dampening to the soft setting. They handle great for me. I do have a little heavy steering but that is okay to. In my opinion they turn better then my buddies Mohawk's.

 

[Flipper]

They are working well for me with no darting. I run pretty much exclusively on packed and groomed trails.
Running Studboy Shaper bars on inside and outside of each ski, 6" of carbide.
I also have the skis shimmed.

 

[fatchance]

I ditched the Tuners because i felt like they were unpredictable at times. A couple good scares was all it took for me. Didn't want to put the money into the trackers because we've had guys bend A-arms going over railroad tracks before. Overall, with enough ski pressure i've been really pleased with the Pilot 6.9's.

 

[SideHogger]

Have posted on this before but I ran stock skis for one ride and one ride only. Yes no darting but push, push, push. I hate push! Went with Curves and on their recommendation use 6" inch carbide with round host bar. They said shapers and any square bar on these sleds make them turn hard. Also, I have the stock rubbers on and not the curve ones because I did back to back testing on same day, same conditions and couldnt steer the damn thing with the curve rubbers on. I know you have the BOP power steering system and I think this combination would be awesome on the sidewinder. I plan to add it this summer. Trying to talk Travis into a group buy for it on the forum. I will admit to some darting but deep snow and trails the sled handles awesome! I will put up with some darting to have no push. Sorry so long winded but this is my 2 cents. Oh, 2017 LTX LE.

 

[Motorhead]

when my sled was new, I put on 500 miles or so on 4-5 different rides with varying snow conditions.
They were dangerous period. With a couple inches of new snow on the groomed trail they just would not turn, talk about push, had to almost come to a stop on a long sweeping curve. On hard pack groomed trail they brought darting to a different level, best described from some on this site as nervous or jittery. I spent quite a bit of time with ski and suspension set ups, trying to improve my handling crises! Mine may have been the worse handling sled I have ever owned. I deemed it dangerous!!!
Was told by dealer that the sno trackers were the way to go, but when I went to purchase them they were not made for the tuner III. I called sno tracker to find out why, and was told that they have an updated set for that ski and they were on backorder for 2 weeks. So I did start the installation and found that the drill pattern needed to be changed.
So I did get to take areal good look at those, that is a lot of hanging metal to catch on anything, bridges, trailers, etc.
I did not want to wait, I had to do something before I ended up in the trees on the junk tuners, so I bought a set of Curves and installed a set of Slim Jim duallys as prescribed by Mr Sled. This set up is the real deal, good in all conditions and allows for 1 or even no hands driving while I shake the wrist thing away (sucks getting old), and no darting at all.
May have to replace my SJ’s next season, thinking of trying single runners for easier steering and even less push in corners but have a feeling those SJ’s are what take all darting away, much like has been done with woodys doolys on most of my past sleds since our new 02 Viper.

But glad to hear that some combos with those tunerIII have been found.This info may help other new owners!!!!

The winder should come with a better ski. Their (Yamaha) initial set up on these monsters are very poor and dangerous.

 

[fourload]

Seems to me every ski will have at least one undesirable trait sometimes. The secret is to adjust your setup to do everything well in most conditions. Way too many variables to make a ski perform the same way for each sled. (Track length, number of studs, stud length and pattern,spring and shock adjustments, transfer and limiter adjustment, rider weight and style, clutch setup, toe out, shim thickness ,carbide type and length, etc). I fortunately have found a very acceptable balance with my 5.7s that I never could with the tuners. Maybe trackers would have worked but I had to cut my losses at some time.

 

[fourload]

Are tuners working any better on the SRX with its different suspension springs and ride height?

 

[jonlafon1]

Guilty of never trying them. Some guys know how to set up a sled with ski brands others it will not matter what ski they run as they have no idea what to adjust for that BALANCE. Also different riding styles. Classic example yesterday. 5 guys cut in front of us and completely destroy the trail in every shap way or form. Six inch trenches every corner exit. All 5 guys riding as if they actually wanted to eat a tree. Which they will eventually.
The pro cross chassis likes stock Cat skis IMO. but then again maybe I’m better at the balance game with setup for a Cat ski. A lot of factors.