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I meant buying something along with the Yamaheater to save a bit on shipping and duties.
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Lol not a problem, will take care of ya!Grimm said:I meant buying something along with the Yamaheater to save a bit on shipping and duties.
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Can now take Credit Cards on the YAMAHEATER site!
Simply goto www.yamaheater.com then to the order screen.
Simply goto www.yamaheater.com then to the order screen.
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Heading for the MSA Snowshow in Hastings Michigan!
Will have YAMAHEATERS, SLEDSTARTS, and LakeEffect Risers!
Stop in and say Hi!
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Will have YAMAHEATERS, SLEDSTARTS, and LakeEffect Risers!
Stop in and say Hi!
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Rockmeister said:PLUG & PLAY HARNESS with factory connectors
The Plug & Play Harness makes your install incredibly easy!
Once you have located the connectors on your sled, the wiring takes just minutes, snapping a few connectors together, and you are done!
IT IS VERY EASY!
If you have an RX or RS, you do NOT need the Plug & Play Harness, yours is already pretty much Plug & Play.
(You don't HAVE to have the Plug & Play Harness for any sled, it just makes the WHC easier & faster to install.)
Just a few things to watch for.
In the pic above, the lower connector(Blue & Green wires), connects into the brake switch wires.
The brake switch wires are Blue/Red and Green.
(Double-check that the Blue/Red does indeed connect to Blue and that Green goes to Green.)
On some sleds, the factory wasn't totally consistent about which wire went where into the connectors.
Your grips don't care which way they are wired, however your Warm Hands Controller DOES care!
If the wires are reversed on the connectors from the factory, you will get an Error 81 when you connect the WHC.
(Grip warmers disconnected Error.)
This seems to be especially prevalent with the '06 update harness.
When you connect the Plug & Play Harness, the connectors may look like this:
Note that Yellow/Red does NOT go to Yellow, and Black does NOT go to Black.
This is INCORRECT, and will give you an Error.
This is the way the wires into and out of the connectors should look:
Note the Yellow/Red connects to Yellow, and Black connects to Black.
This is CORRECT.
To correct this you need a specialized tool...
A safety pin. lol
A thin small sharp ice pick, or very small jewelers screwdriver will work also.
If you look closely into the end of the connector from the factory wire harness, you will see a small release next to the connector terminals.
The release is below the connector pin in the pic above.
Use the safety pin (or other appropriate tool) to push the release away from the terminal, as you hold the release back, lightly pull the terminal out of the connector, as shown here.
If the terminal does not pull out with light pressure, you have not fully released it.
When the terminal releases, it will look like this.
Release both the Yellow/Red and the Black.
Re-install both terminals into the correct position by applying light pressure and sliding into the connector until they "click" into place.
If they do not slide into the connector easily, flip the terminal over and try again, they will only go in one way, and only require light pressure to insert them.
Double-check that Yellow/Red does indeed go to Yellow, and Black goes to Black, when the connectors are snapped together.
SERIES and PARALLEL Grip Wiring using the Plug & Play Harness
If your grips are wired in Parallel you will have Yellow/Red and a solid black wire into each grip connector from the main wiring harness.
(NO Black/Red)
(You will only use one of the connectors from the main wiring harness.)
(You do not need to change anything, just double-check that the wires are in the correct position in the connector from the factory as shown above.)
Some models have the grips wired in Series.
You can tell the ones that are in Series by locating the Black/Red wire that jumpers between both grip connectors.
(Many '06 Apexes and some new Phazer models are wired this way.)
The Plug & Play Quick Connect Harness uses one connector for input, and the wires into that connector need to be Yellow/Red and solid Black from the main harness.
If yours has a Black/Red, you can release the Black/Red from both connectors as shown above.
Then release the Black from it's connector and re-insert Black into the connector with Yellow/Red.
This will give you one connector to connect the Plug and Play Harness into.
Confirm that the Yellow/Red and Black wires are in the correct position as shown above.
Enjoy your Warm Hands!
Many Thanks to Butch32 for allowing me use of his garage to find out why his was erroring with the switched wire position.
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hi rock i purchased 2 yamaheaters at haydays, 1 for my nitro, which i just installed, and working great. i started on the 07phazer but i have a black wire and black / red on the throtle side warmer and yellow/red andblack/red on clutch side. from what i read in your instuctions this is series wired. you talk about releasing the black and reinserting with the yellow/ red connecter, but my only black is on the wrong side of the sled. am i misunderstanding something? thank gary
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Hi Gary, send me a PM with your telephone number & will call ya right away!
Will post the outcome for everyone.
Rock
Will post the outcome for everyone.
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just bought the YamaHeater today at the Hastings Snowshow. So bring on the COLD!!
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Nice talkin to ya again at the Hastings show, Rock.
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whitedreamz said:just bought the YamaHeater today at the Hastings Snowshow. So bring on the COLD!!
Like the screen name...LOL
Post up your location as the site requires it. Just lettin ya know cuz you will get asked.
Welcome to TY and enjoy the Yamaheater...that thing ROCKS!
Sorry Rock...no pun intended...well maybe a little
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Rock,
I just hooked up my Yamaheater and Sled Start tonight. I have just one word to say.... Awesome!
My grips got very hot very fast at idle. I can't wait to ride in the cold. Bring on the freeezing temps!
I just hooked up my Yamaheater and Sled Start tonight. I have just one word to say.... Awesome!
My grips got very hot very fast at idle. I can't wait to ride in the cold. Bring on the freeezing temps!
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Rock;
When you designed this warm hand unit, did you consult with Yamaha engineers or anyone at Yamaha, on loss of system power output due to warm hands current draw? Can you comment on this. I just want to be sure there is no potential long term effect of this power draw redistribution. Getting ready to shoot an order your way.
I would think these engineers would be smart guys, but why wouldn't they have designed the system to work this way from the drawing board? I don't quite understand an engineering blunder of this magnitude on a sled this expensive. If they can F this up, it makes you wonder about the quality of the rest of their machine.
>If you have an RX or RS, you do NOT need the Plug & Play Harness, yours is already pretty much Plug & Play.<
Also Rock, what do you mean by this statement found in the installation instructions? Do I still get some benefit of the "plug and play" for an '09 Vector? Something that makes installation easier? The statement kind of implies you don't really need the plug and play because connection is justt as easy without it on the RS?
When you designed this warm hand unit, did you consult with Yamaha engineers or anyone at Yamaha, on loss of system power output due to warm hands current draw? Can you comment on this. I just want to be sure there is no potential long term effect of this power draw redistribution. Getting ready to shoot an order your way.
I would think these engineers would be smart guys, but why wouldn't they have designed the system to work this way from the drawing board? I don't quite understand an engineering blunder of this magnitude on a sled this expensive. If they can F this up, it makes you wonder about the quality of the rest of their machine.
>If you have an RX or RS, you do NOT need the Plug & Play Harness, yours is already pretty much Plug & Play.<
Also Rock, what do you mean by this statement found in the installation instructions? Do I still get some benefit of the "plug and play" for an '09 Vector? Something that makes installation easier? The statement kind of implies you don't really need the plug and play because connection is justt as easy without it on the RS?
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Rock is awesome! I started working on my girlfriends 07 Phazer and had some questions for Rock as to how to do this. I pm'd him on sunday afternoon and within an hour or so he called me up to walk me through the install. Great, Great, Great Customer Service! Thanks Rock, see you at the Milwaukee Snow Show Friday Night.
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Hi Rock just placed my order for the warmers and plugnplay harness are your units pre assembled or are you building one by order any ways just inquiring on your durability test how long of field testing have you been experimenting with your hand warmers a history lesson if you will thanks
Hi Rock just placed my order for the warmers and plugnplay harness are your units pre assembled or are you building one by order any ways just inquiring on your durability test how long of field testing have you been experimenting with your hand warmers a history lesson if you will thanks
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Fusion said:Rock;
When you designed this warm hand unit, did you consult with Yamaha engineers or anyone at Yamaha, on loss of system power output due to warm hands current draw? Can you comment on this. I just want to be sure there is no potential long term effect of this power draw redistribution. Getting ready to shoot an order your way.
I would think these engineers would be smart guys, but why wouldn't they have designed the system to work this way from the drawing board? I don't quite understand an engineering blunder of this magnitude on a sled this expensive. If they can F this up, it makes you wonder about the quality of the rest of their machine.
>If you have an RX or RS, you do NOT need the Plug & Play Harness, yours is already pretty much Plug & Play.<
Also Rock, what do you mean by this statement found in the installation instructions? Do I still get some benefit of the "plug and play" for an '09 Vector? Something that makes installation easier? The statement kind of implies you don't really need the plug and play because connection is justt as easy without it on the RS?
Hi Fusion!
Good questions!
Can't really consult with Yamaha as that would imply their heaters have a "problem".
Politically, most likely not gonna happen.
In their defense, Yamaha is not alone, ALL the manufacturers have the same issue in one form or another, and in varying degrees.
Have answered alot of this here:
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?p=615619#615619
And here:
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?p=615622#615622
The Basic kit will work as Plug & Play on 03-05 RX/RS sleds as they use bullet connectors for the grip connections as does the kit.
From 06 on, the factory uses specialized connectors for the grips & the Plug & Play kit makes it MUCH easier and fast to have Warm Hands!
You CAN hardwire the basic kit in on 06 to current sleds, if you wish, it is just not as easy.
Hope this helps!
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