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sj said:dirkdiggler said:SledFreak said:Maybe..... But, I can tell you this.... The clutching on the stock Cats are junk and always have been... Yamaha does a way better job out of the box calibration... I still say clutched for clutched, I doudt the Apex will win. Maybe Steve should unplug the jacker and just clutch it and run mad russian to see what he's got.
DO we really want to get into the excuse game? Ok lets go there.
Do you hear Russian crying actually he's done nothing but cry all the excuses about the poor fuel curve the 2011 has?
Russian actually hurt his sled to the tune of 20 HP according By doing his airbox mod this is funny...how do you know its 20hp loss...btw...when we rolled on during our trip I had my air filter out and I think it hurt me as well, but I didnt use that as an excuse...did i?
with no fuel controller. Allen lost 10 at the track on the apex when they did the airbox mod with no PC5. 10 at the track is 20 at the crank. Andy you should know better then anyone on the site since you cried for 6 weeks about the Apex needing the PC5 that the apex is already lean from the factory.this smacks of excuses...you want me to tell you all the little problems with the z1 like this? the primary shim? the shift assist?
Should Russian be crying about the loss of MPH he had with the Woodys dullies he installed prior to our ride. guess what bro...you were with me when they put dooleys on mine at the dealership...is it only a loss for the blue camp ha ha? Ya he lost 10mph on the top end. he did back to back runs with them on and with them off to prove it.
This is what I hate about drag snowmobiles. No one ever loses. I just got done saying the Z1 beats the apex every time out of the hole. out of the hole and all the way down the track...why the out of the hole explanation? if you took your lake race viper and got two out on another sled and one...would you say..well I really didnt win cuz it was only out of the hole and never pulled away? I doubt it...Which means it wins that race. Oh but that's never been good enough for Steve. I've been having this Fnning conversation with him for 6 weeks now. Ive only owned the sled for 4 weeks?Unless I say his sled is the fastest all the time he hasn't been happy. what are you talking about...Ive been thrilled...Ive not asked for your opinion one time...you yourself have said it of your own accord...always with an extra sentence thrown in...."but stock for stock I think the apex is faster" sounds like you need me to say the apex is fast?
Andy one more thing if you want to interject your opinion get in your car, and drive down to anchor bay and watch the races. Instead of using Steve's story , come down and post your own story.
this crap is one of the big reasons I'm considering quieting the sport.
let me make it clear....I made a mistake and took all the bait laid out on this forum...a yamaha forum...one of many friends and acquantances... look at all my posts on Ty I am still here to help whenever possible...
funny..if the truth per you jason is my sled is stupid fast...why must you keep going back to when to one trail ride where the apex pulled as good or better for a minute.. you guys had already been wrenching on your sleds and I didnt touch a thing did I?
did you happen to remember I told you my belt was sitting way too low probably from me smoking it out on the lake? nope that would be an excuse for me...so keep that burnt belt out of the game right? "oh you only beat us on the holeshot" sounds like the excuse game to me... but the excuses only go the blue way right...
dont make it sound like youre thinking of "quiting the sport" because of this....your exact words were you were thinking of quiting after wrecking the apex...
also...funny how some treat those who treat others poorly get treated better than those who treat them well... guess my sled is the wrong color...
truth is the only thing thats making me even for a second regret this sled is the b.s. excuse game thats getting run here...
just like you told sledfreak...why are you posting here (since he's now on a 1200 doo) I can see clearly... Im out and done posting HERE...only in other forums to help others...now all you nytros and apex owners, and blue visioned boys share a group hug..
PEACEOUT
Steve i don't want you to leave. Not sure how many times a person has to say someones sleds is fast for them to know I think it's fast.
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dirkdiggler said:sj said:dirkdiggler said:SledFreak said:Maybe..... But, I can tell you this.... The clutching on the stock Cats are junk and always have been... Yamaha does a way better job out of the box calibration... I still say clutched for clutched, I doudt the Apex will win. Maybe Steve should unplug the jacker and just clutch it and run mad russian to see what he's got.
DO we really want to get into the excuse game? Ok lets go there.
Do you hear Russian crying actually he's done nothing but cry all the excuses about the poor fuel curve the 2011 has?
Russian actually hurt his sled to the tune of 20 HP according By doing his airbox mod this is funny...how do you know its 20hp loss...btw...when we rolled on during our trip I had my air filter out and I think it hurt me as well, but I didnt use that as an excuse...did i?
with no fuel controller. Allen lost 10 at the track on the apex when they did the airbox mod with no PC5. 10 at the track is 20 at the crank. Andy you should know better then anyone on the site since you cried for 6 weeks about the Apex needing the PC5 that the apex is already lean from the factory.this smacks of excuses...you want me to tell you all the little problems with the z1 like this? the primary shim? the shift assist?
Should Russian be crying about the loss of MPH he had with the Woodys dullies he installed prior to our ride. guess what bro...you were with me when they put dooleys on mine at the dealership...is it only a loss for the blue camp ha ha? Ya he lost 10mph on the top end. he did back to back runs with them on and with them off to prove it.
This is what I hate about drag snowmobiles. No one ever loses. I just got done saying the Z1 beats the apex every time out of the hole. out of the hole and all the way down the track...why the out of the hole explanation? if you took your lake race viper and got two out on another sled and one...would you say..well I really didnt win cuz it was only out of the hole and never pulled away? I doubt it...Which means it wins that race. Oh but that's never been good enough for Steve. I've been having this Fnning conversation with him for 6 weeks now. Ive only owned the sled for 4 weeks?Unless I say his sled is the fastest all the time he hasn't been happy. what are you talking about...Ive been thrilled...Ive not asked for your opinion one time...you yourself have said it of your own accord...always with an extra sentence thrown in...."but stock for stock I think the apex is faster" sounds like you need me to say the apex is fast?
Andy one more thing if you want to interject your opinion get in your car, and drive down to anchor bay and watch the races. Instead of using Steve's story , come down and post your own story.
this crap is one of the big reasons I'm considering quieting the sport.
let me make it clear....I made a mistake and took all the bait laid out on this forum...a yamaha forum...one of many friends and acquantances... look at all my posts on Ty I am still here to help whenever possible...
funny..if the truth per you jason is my sled is stupid fast...why must you keep going back to when to one trail ride where the apex pulled as good or better for a minute.. you guys had already been wrenching on your sleds and I didnt touch a thing did I?
did you happen to remember I told you my belt was sitting way too low probably from me smoking it out on the lake? nope that would be an excuse for me...so keep that burnt belt out of the game right? "oh you only beat us on the holeshot" sounds like the excuse game to me... but the excuses only go the blue way right...
dont make it sound like youre thinking of "quiting the sport" because of this....your exact words were you were thinking of quiting after wrecking the apex...
also...funny how some treat those who treat others poorly get treated better than those who treat them well... guess my sled is the wrong color...
truth is the only thing thats making me even for a second regret this sled is the b.s. excuse game thats getting run here...
just like you told sledfreak...why are you posting here (since he's now on a 1200 doo) I can see clearly... Im out and done posting HERE...only in other forums to help others...now all you nytros and apex owners, and blue visioned boys share a group hug..
PEACEOUT
Steve i don't want you to leave. Not sure how many times a person has to say someones sleds is fast for them to know I think it's fast.
No Steve... He has clearly said he wants me to leave.... Trust me were done... Your making lots of friends these days aren't you Jason....
Were not all of you warned on this crap? I mean COME ON. You all sound like children. Do you guys enjoy this forum? Or are you going to just keep posting like you are until the forum is gone? Your choice!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable!!!
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