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2020 Release

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Now if someone could find the super secret testing area, which all manufactures have someplace to do their testing, and get some spy photos. Unless they camo them up like auto manufacturers do with their test mules.

AC has no issues riding their prototypes in plain site. This photos was taken of two AC factory riders in Mahnomen at the casino, quite a ways south of TRF. This was shot before the 2012 ProCross sleds were announced? Either way, I remember we were all blown away by the tall spindles etc. It does remind you of how long those ProCross chassis have been around.
 

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If new for 2020 it’s been on the snow for awhile. A lot goes on deep in the unplowed UP FRs. When discovered they advise no pictures are to be taken.
 
Just got back from Manitoulin Island Ontario deer hunting and wish I brought my sled. We had over a foot of snow last week.
 
If Yamaha does go with some kind of carbon fiber composite chassis it should shave about 25#'s, add a light weight battery from the factory and you have a 4 stroke sled thats 40-50#'s lighter which is very doable, but the majority of the weight will still be upfront in the motor.
 
If Yamaha does go with some kind of carbon fiber composite chassis it should shave about 25#'s, add a light weight battery from the factory and you have a 4 stroke sled thats 40-50#'s lighter which is very doable, but the majority of the weight will still be upfront in the motor.
And high COG.
 
If Yamaha does go with some kind of carbon fiber composite chassis it should shave about 25#'s, add a light weight battery from the factory and you have a 4 stroke sled thats 40-50#'s lighter which is very doable, but the majority of the weight will still be upfront in the motor.
Depends on how much influence Cat has had they like to minimize or have parts serve dual purposes. If Yamaha really wants to minimize weight they could surprise us. True the weight of a 4s engine is what it is but 50 to 75 lbs would greatly interest me. Hopefully EPS stays too.
 
Now that all the inventory of sleds are in the pipeline, Wouldn't it be beneficial to Yamaha to sneak peak any "New Items" before March?
My thoughts also. There has to be people out there looking at moving away from Yamaha as they have not seen anything new, or what they want, in a long time. Except Sidewinder which is not for everyone. A limited release, or even some leaked info, might cause them to wait until 2020.
 
If Yamaha does go with some kind of carbon fiber composite chassis it should shave about 25#'s, add a light weight battery from the factory and you have a 4 stroke sled thats 40-50#'s lighter which is very doable, but the majority of the weight will still be upfront in the motor.
Having worked with the Ford GT program and the all carbon fiber chassis the last couple years, it is very lightweight, however it is very expensive.
There have been a lot of complaints on sled prices, will people be willing to pay for the carbon fiber?
 
Stop dreaming and hoping for a game breaker sled...else you will surely be disappointed.

Don't be afraid to try other brands and ride other great sleds. If Yamaha comes out with something, then switch back. I switched after 12 years of Yamaloyalty, never been happier with a sled.
 
Stop dreaming and hoping for a game breaker sled...else you will surely be disappointed.

Don't be afraid to try other brands and ride other great sleds. If Yamaha comes out with something, then switch back. I switched after 12 years of Yamaloyalty, never been happier with a sled.
I too switched after 6 years with Yamaha. I never owned a Cat until now and the little bit I rode it last spring I was very happy with it. I know its pretty much the same as a new Yamaha but I wanted to try going back to a 2 stroke for my riding type. If Yamaha comes out with something really new and it gets good reviews then I might be back on a yammy.
 
Stop dreaming and hoping for a game breaker sled...else you will surely be disappointed.

Don't be afraid to try other brands and ride other great sleds. If Yamaha comes out with something, then switch back. I switched after 12 years of Yamaloyalty, never been happier with a sled.
Totally agree with this statement. We can all wear blue goggles if we want, but at least do it with an open mind.
And with regards to the comments about carbon fiber .... Yes, it will reduce weight which is a good thing. However, it will drive up the price of an already expensive sled. And, even though it would bring the weight down closer to the weight of a 2-stroke, it won't be long before the 2-strokes start using carbon fiber too. And then they will be much lighter than the 4-stroke again. It's a never ending battle....
 
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