IFlyEm
Expert
Maxout01 said:
Max,
Just grab the RTX and ride the snot out of it. The mono shock will not handle rough trails as well as the Pro Action skid imo. Now with enough $$$ you can make almost any skid perform well. However I think you will be closer to your target out of the hole with the RTX. I also loved the Fox air shocks on the front end.
Also remember that that while the Ohlins shock is cool, its a $1000 part to replace. Also the RTX is geared lower than the GT. It will give you more oomph off of the line.
my .02
Thanks! Thats exactly what I need to know. NOW they are predicting 50 degrees with 2-3" of rain by this time tomorrow... So I need to actually get myself to go buy the sled I drove even though we have no winter here.. its not easy for me to go hand over 5,800 cash when I cant ride it.. stupid winter.
Bpatch50
Expert
suspension
I see your from northern NY. If you spend anytime at all in Tug Hill I wouldn't even consider a mono shock. It's a very smooth riding suspension but it handles bumps worse than any skid I've ridden in years. It's all in where and how you ride.
I see your from northern NY. If you spend anytime at all in Tug Hill I wouldn't even consider a mono shock. It's a very smooth riding suspension but it handles bumps worse than any skid I've ridden in years. It's all in where and how you ride.
Re: suspension
Yep point I was trying to get across to everyone.. northern ny trails are not smooth at all, lol! And when I get in the roughest of the rough, I do not shy out or slow down, I take it as a challenge and have some fun with it. Some people run around bumps, banks, rough spots etc.. I pull the throttle alittle closer to the bar and run right threw it! So much fun! I get very bored on smooth straight trails.
Bpatch50 said:
Yep point I was trying to get across to everyone.. northern ny trails are not smooth at all, lol! And when I get in the roughest of the rough, I do not shy out or slow down, I take it as a challenge and have some fun with it. Some people run around bumps, banks, rough spots etc.. I pull the throttle alittle closer to the bar and run right threw it! So much fun! I get very bored on smooth straight trails.
berge75
Expert
If your looking at jammin big bumps you should be getting a nytro,not a apex.
berge75 said:
blowing through bumps is only something I do as riding down the trail. Its not enough of my style to warrant/want a stand up sled. I dont go off trail ever. All I'm saying is I don't see bad spots/bumps/banks and stuff on the trail and slow down and go around, I speed up and aim right for it. I wanted a semi bump capable sled and flat trail sled together. The apex rtx was a great mix for me. Plus who could not want the motor! man was I a happy camper, lol! Great sled.
Also I'm not a big fan of rider forward, I just didn't like it on the rev I had, dont really care for it on the nytro either. Don't misunderstand I like being slightly rider foward but not that much. I really felt great on the apex. I have the cash and know the sled, i just have to find the best deal and hopefully in the mean time winter will come back for a change so I don't feel so bad to buy one.
Now my issue is the winter is so bad here (totally non existent) that I'm afraid to by a sled.
hossZ28
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No pressure but now is the time to buy because when the snow arrives the prices will be firm or rise
Nick1945
TY 4 Stroke Master
If you wait too long you might miss out on the good deals.
If you don't have snow, hook the trailer up and drive to it. I guess it comes down to how bad do you want to ride.
Any time I want to go snowmobiling, I have a minimum of a 200 mile drive one way, and I do it all season, every season. Last season I had 3000 miles, the year before that was 4300, and some of the trips were 400 + miles to get there.
I like the sport, and I drive to where the snow is.
If you don't have snow, hook the trailer up and drive to it. I guess it comes down to how bad do you want to ride.
Any time I want to go snowmobiling, I have a minimum of a 200 mile drive one way, and I do it all season, every season. Last season I had 3000 miles, the year before that was 4300, and some of the trips were 400 + miles to get there.
I like the sport, and I drive to where the snow is.
I hear ya, but another month and its spring here for good, so if I dont find/buy one now I have 10 months before next season, actually be nice to not have to store the thing over the summer.
I drive to find snow, but this year theres none that I can find worth riding. It 60 degrees and pouring rain, even at my camp 2 hours away in the mountains.
Trust me I just assume go to the dealer, buy the sled, and ride away. But im definitely not in a hurry for it this winter. One thing I've learned is theres always a deal. The guy selling it even said that himself.
I drive to find snow, but this year theres none that I can find worth riding. It 60 degrees and pouring rain, even at my camp 2 hours away in the mountains.
Trust me I just assume go to the dealer, buy the sled, and ride away. But im definitely not in a hurry for it this winter. One thing I've learned is theres always a deal. The guy selling it even said that himself.
Maxout01, I take it you purchased the 2006 apex......do you have a updated opinion?
Coldplay97 said:
I was set to by one from a guy on here and then encountered some vehicle issues which took some of my budget and made that tough to purchase.. long story short...after looking around I found a local deal from a guy who wanted a new one that day literally and just wanted it gone very quick so he could get the one he wanted, so I got it cheap. It had only 2,800 miles and he bought it new in 07-08 season and it came with all dealer paper work, original sale papers, including any warranty stuff ever done. He basically rode it every time and put it away. Never really did more then basic maint. so it needed work/good cleaning. I bought the sled took it to the local dealer and striped it down to nothing really and went completely threw it. Me and the dealer owner did new speedo bearing, went through the clutches, full service, and did the exhaust donuts as they were shot.
Right now it has a mono in it. The skid needs new idlers, shock rebuild, heavier spring, shock adjuster cable. It could damn well use the half baked mono beef up/powder coating done also. Basically everything they are known for needing, it needs for this skid.
I had bascially fully serviced it and gone through it and left the skid the way it was because I wanted to get some miles on it and take it from there before I dropped all that dough into a skid I may not like. I have been riding it, due to local snow conditions finally being full of snow now, but its 40 out also so days a numbered...
So my ride analysis.. The mono is great in studders.. thats it. It cannot handle any sort of hard riding AT ALL. It is not fun to ride with this skid as even with playing with transfer it stays on the ground, all the time..BORING! What a pile the mono is on anything but flat trails. It bottoms on stuff HARD that my old vmax would eat up. Its HORRIBLE! The mono is like an old fart skid designed for weenie trails, lol! I will say I went through alot of studders in the first 100 miles with NO back pain.
The sled itself review:
It takes some getting used to. I am coming off a rev, and I have to say at first I hated the apex as it felt like I was on a trailing arm sled. Now I've put more miles on it and I like it more and more. I find it sluggish with low torque(for its hp class anyway), but lower top gear will help as all rtx's with the 22t top Ive ridden are insane to this with the stock 24 t top which is too sluggish down low.
Overall a fun sled to ride, but needs all the tweeking any sled needs really to make it mine. My rev was the same way. In fact stock I would say this apex is miles above the rev for real world trail riders. The apex is an excellent trail sled, even in the twisties I was hauling #*$&@ and comfortable with it. Very much so compared to the rev. I would classify the rev as a stand up sled good for short trip mile days, very similar to the newer nytros and what people say about them. The apex you can ride with a smile all day long, and still want more. I know thats weird to say for such a heavy sled but for me its true. The apex is just kinda too refined in its current state to be fun enough for me and cannot be ridden in a aggressive manner without tweeking/ new additions/ aftermarket support. But the rev was not comfortable for me at all. 50 miles and I was sick of riding the rev for the day. Never failed. First ride on the apex and I was at 100 miles and felt like I just started out for the day.
So my plans:
I have purchased an 2007 rtx skid from ahicks on here. It only has 700 miles on it. I have one family friend who owns a local yamaha dealer. He is going to do the skid swap right after my last ride this season. I have a friend who locally owns a shock building/sledding shop. He is going to revalve/build the rtx shocks for my riding style. I will either keep the front shocks for now, or ditch them for something else.. not sure.
I will be completely re-doing the sled in the off season. New bearings, new bushings, New graphics, all new powdercoating, new shocks, new skis, probably black out seat, new track, lower gearing and who knows what else, lol.
Even after I do all of those extras, I will end up under 5,200 for a total price for this sled, including what I originally paid for it. Now that means I get a sled riddled with aftermarket goodies and built for me for under average blue book value. I got a really good deal on it originally and hopefully that will pay off, lol!
At first my plan was to buy a new sled. But after a very low snow season, and coming to my senses I decided I am not interested in dropping 10k+ on a new sled and then spending another 2k on all the goodies I want and need for it so I'd be happy with it. So once I talked myself out of that I found this to be a good route to go, and it was just kinda right there when I needed it to be, lol!
Also it only has 2,800 miles on it which helped my decision.
Heres some pics of the tear down, lol! First one is hard to see but its what it looks like together..for now!
